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SOMETIMES UP, SOMETIMES DOWN

Posted on 11/23/2020 10:01:19 PM PST by 7thson

As my title suggests, everyday while browsing through FR and reading some of the threads, sometimes I am up and sometimes I am down. However, I think about something that happened in Maryland back in 1994 that pushes me slightly in the half-empty camp.

Ellen Sauerbrey ran against Paris Glendening (affectionately known as Spendening) for Governor and lost. However, she made the claim that the machines being used were switching votes over to Glendening. Lo and behold, she was able to provide evidence. Then a Maryland court threw her case out because the court stated she provided the evidence a day pass the deadline date, effectively crushing overturning the election. (I am sure there are more specifics - the above is the Reader's Digest version).

Remembering this, I just have the feeling the same thing is going to happen. President Trump, with the aid of his legal team and Sidney Powell, will prove that widespread fraud did in fact occur, and a Federal court and/of the Supreme Court, will come up with some half-assed legal mumbo-jumbo to say it does not count.

Please do not dog me out for being pessimistic. I am just relaying my thoughts as I - and we - have seen this happen time and time again.

As a side note, there is a lot of talk on FR about taking to the streets and taking it to the swamp. I get the impression that most of this is talk, though I do believe nothing is going to really change until people from the swamp are drastically effected.


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1 posted on 11/23/2020 10:01:19 PM PST by 7thson
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And Glendening went on to steal the Browns. What a jerk.


2 posted on 11/23/2020 10:03:37 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: mmichaels1970

His best achievement and the only thing good he did for Maryland! :)


3 posted on 11/23/2020 10:05:55 PM PST by Abbeville Conservative
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To: 7thson

I’m thinking maybe the trump team doesn’t want to prove the Dominion side of things until they are back in office.

Trying to preserve as much of the vote as possible.


4 posted on 11/23/2020 10:06:17 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: mmichaels1970

Which also cost Maryland money, not just for the stadium, but because the Orioles had a clause in tehri lease saying their rent would be reduced to whatever a football team was being charged. Well, Glendening had give the Browns, now Ravens, a sweetheart least with zero rent (at least for a time.) Orioles owner Peter Angelos invoked that clause and wound up not having to pay any rent either.


5 posted on 11/23/2020 10:09:45 PM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters. )
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I am afraid you may be correct. If I remember correctly ( a big if these days) a MI or PA court ruled some ballots were illegal and could not be counted, but they had already been segregated and not accounted according to the State. It did not however address ballots received the day after the election at 4 am. That was not what was before them.

I also believe a ruling of fraud would go a long way to stop ballot harvesting in the future, but may not help Trump. I could see SCOTUS tossing the 600,000 ballots challenged in PA, but ruling that while fraud did occur in WI, MI and NV it would not change the certification. I do not know the legal ins and outs but just look how Roberts twisted the law to rule on Obamacare.


6 posted on 11/23/2020 10:10:32 PM PST by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angles will sing for me)
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To: 7thson

Then there’s the Rossi-Gregoire race in Washington in 2004 and of course, famously, Coleman-Franken.


7 posted on 11/23/2020 10:10:33 PM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters. )
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To: 7thson

You aren’t pessimistic - you are realistic. I imagine SCOTUS could just punt on the whole thing and say - sorry, the states have made their decisions.

Many things need to align for Trump to win this. Simply having obvious proof of fraud is hardly enough.

We live in an increasingly corrupt country. Not as corrupt as most, but corrupt nonetheless.


8 posted on 11/23/2020 10:14:21 PM PST by PGR88
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To: OldGoatCPO

What’s coming will make the antifa riots look like a children’s spat. I can’t believe people are so blind. Everything is turning upside down and inside out. What’s good is bad and bad is good.

It’s sad.


9 posted on 11/23/2020 10:17:40 PM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: mmichaels1970

Actually, he “stole” the Browns by providing Modell with an extremely hugh sweetheart deal. Basically signed the states treasury over to Modell. But the vast majority of the Maryland idiotic voters never looked at that - as long as there was an NFL team back in Maryland. Breads and circuses.


10 posted on 11/23/2020 10:18:25 PM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: 7thson

I hope this doesn’t seem like I want to “dog you out” (does that mean pile on?)

I literally don’t understand the purpose of the many negative posts today.

WHen football teams are fighting in the superbowl, it’s about pushing down field. Saying “I don’t think Trump will be able to set the record straight on the election” does show that we are firmly behind the president and will back him through thick and thin.

Saying,”I am afraid Biden will be our next president, encouarges the left to drag this farce out longer because they think we might just give up and withdraw our support from the president’s pursuit. What we say to one another on thread is part of the information war and right now we’re pushing for one side or another whether we mean to or not.

I understand heaviness of heart when you’re feeling down, but in the middle of a war it helps to keep true feelings like that off the battlefield. We need to be able to talk and vent - but FReepmail would keep those feelings from encouraging our enemies.

We need to support the President’s fight for us to have fair elections or we won’t ever have another.

I remember a friend saying, “Feelings don’t have morals. They aren’t wrong or right - they just exist and are yours.” So it’s not that those who feel bad at this point have willed themselves to feel the way they do.

But such feelings are a weapon used to try to erode support for President Trump just as we need to be showing that we will never stop supporting him, just as he has never supported us.

In place of feelings, decisions, encouragement, analysis, sharing info with one another are posts that boost the search for justice.

President Trump won and he will not concede. Let’s show him we stand with him and confer with friends in email or offline about more private feelings and concerns.

SOmeone posted suggestions for supporting the fight to stop the steal.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3908665/posts?page=598#598

There are others posting their ideas to support the information war on FR and around the web.. It may lift your heavy heart to pursue one or more of the ideas floating around. Take heart. TRUMP WON!


11 posted on 11/23/2020 10:18:30 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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...about taking to the streets and taking it to the swamp.

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This is NOT *just talk*. Go to revolver.news and the videos are there from all of Europe with tens of thousands of people in the street in various countries protesting the economic lockdowns and The Great Reset. Also in the US,along with support rallies for Stop The Steal.

This is a harebrained scheme by a few elites in Europe who have drawn in the elites of the US, Canadian and South Pacific anglophone countries. It is so contrary to human nature to think a small select group can, by virtue of wealth and connections, bring about a new feudalism after centuries of progress and education (the real sort) and liberty, that there is no way it can succeed in the long term.

We will still face the final threats as they try for a world war and a hit to utilities, transport and communications. I don’t see them winning and I do see them bringing about so much misery and death that their names become synonymous with the great dictatorships of history and just as reviled.


12 posted on 11/23/2020 10:22:53 PM PST by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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My suggestion, don’t think about it and pray. The whining sounds a lot like when Hillary lost. It’s all in God’s hands. The end point will be Jan21st,2021. God is in control, thy will be done.


13 posted on 11/23/2020 10:24:05 PM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: PGR88
I remember having discussions with my brother back in the 70's when we were teens and young adults. We naively prided our nation as not being corrupt like Mexico, a lot of the banana republics, the Iron Curtain nations, Asian nations, African nations, and of course the mid-East. However, in the past 20 years I have come to the conclusion that our nation is severely corrupt - from the grassroots all the way to the top - including the Executive Branch. I am not saying President Trump is corrupt but the majority around him are.

I have read the Bible and a little bit of history. Corrupt and degenerate nations do not last long. I believe the United States are well into that phase.

14 posted on 11/23/2020 10:24:07 PM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Abbeville Conservative

Not his best achievement. It severely hurt Maryland. Actually, he “stole” the Browns by providing Modell with an extremely hugh sweetheart deal. Basically signed the states treasury over to Modell. But the vast majority of the Maryland idiotic voters never looked at that - as long as there was an NFL team back in Maryland. Breads and circuses.


15 posted on 11/23/2020 10:25:17 PM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: 7thson
its a choice to be optimistic or pessimistic....its a choice....

its easy to get down and then get widely optimistic in the same day....

we need to grow up some....life isn't easy, nobody said it would be...

I prefer to be somewhat optimistic.....I temper that with buying extra canned vegetables and more TP....

16 posted on 11/23/2020 10:27:02 PM PST by cherry
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To: OldGoatCPO

A big difference between a governor’s election and a presidential election is that the latter is governed by the U.S. Constitution, not state law. The legislatures in these states have a huge role to play if there is clear evidence of malfeasance.


17 posted on 11/23/2020 10:28:36 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: 7thson

Rule 308 may come into play in that case.


18 posted on 11/23/2020 10:29:29 PM PST by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: OldGoatCPO
Its all going to depend on the integrity of our SC.....that does scare me...

whatever happens, we're clearer aren't we?....we're clearer about the truths we know and we can act accordingly....

19 posted on 11/23/2020 10:29:37 PM PST by cherry
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To: Karliner
You are correct - it is the will of God. Like I said - I have read the Bible. It was the will of God that Israel was crushed and its people were enslaved. I believe that God did place President Trump in the White House. He also placed Obama in the White House. Nothing happens without God's will. There is a plan. I may not like the course of the plan, but prayer and surrendering to God's will is what I have to do. I just have a hard time doing that.

Thank you for your words of encouragement.

20 posted on 11/23/2020 10:31:21 PM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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