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I just tried Shell’s EV charging hub — and it's not the future I want
Toms Guide ^ | 30 Jan 2022 | Tom Pritchard

Posted on 01/30/2022 10:32:05 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT

A gas station-style forecourt isn't necessarily the best option

I’ve always been of the opinion that you should bring EV chargers to the people, rather than asking people to come to the chargers. But admittedly charging hubs aren’t very common, and until very recently they were all too far away to experience first hand.

But at the tail end of last year, Shell opened up its first EV charging hub in Fulham, in West London. It’s still pretty out of the way for me, and the trip involves driving into the heart of the U.K.’s busiest city from nearby Reading. But it’s not so far that I couldn’t check this out for myself, just in case I’ve been totally wrong about EV charging this whole time.

And yes, for those that didn’t know, Shell the oil company is also in the EV charging business. So is BP, which is all really weird to think about.

According to Shell the Fulham hub uses 100% renewable energy, with on-site solar panels contributing around a quarter of its needs.

It was a very painless experience, only really hampered by the fact the price was so high. £0.49 ($0.66). I’m used to rapid chargers being more expensive, but Shell Recharge is the most expensive I’ve ever seen. Back home a rapid charger will cost me £0.30 to £0.35 ($0.40 to $0.47) per kWh, depending on which company’s chargers I’m using. It’s not just London-centric inflation, either, since that is an all-too real problem in the English capital.

According to ZapMap, which lists the vast majority of available chargers, nearby rapid chargers were charging no more than £0.39 ($0.52) per kWh.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Travel
KEYWORDS: charge; dev; displacedemissions; electionvehicle; electricvehicle; ev; expensive; impractical; inconvenient
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To: JBW1949

Well you could have asked how much natural gas or how much coal was burned to supply him with power to charge the earth saving device. Or how much petroleum product was used to manufacture the earth saver and all it’s pieces and parts. 😊


21 posted on 01/30/2022 10:50:59 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: kiryandil

Those charging stations will install Vaccine Passport readers and Approval To Travel authorizations at the order of the leftist authoritarian that determines it is useful.


22 posted on 01/30/2022 10:51:54 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: kiryandil; TexasGator

“One of the more clueless comments I’ve seen for a while...”

Most chargers are at home. You can buy level 2 fast chargers now at Lowes or Home Depot for $699 that plug right into your stove or dryer wiring.


23 posted on 01/30/2022 10:53:04 AM PST by setter
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To: rktman

These idiots actually think if we did away with fossil fuels, the rest of the world will also...


24 posted on 01/30/2022 10:55:07 AM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: setter

Nothing is free


25 posted on 01/30/2022 10:55:10 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: TexasGator
see post #17
26 posted on 01/30/2022 10:55:14 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: setter

whoops now down to $199.00 Level 2 fast charger for home

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Lectron-Lectron-240V-16-Amp-Level-2-EV-Charger-with-21ft-Extension-Cord-J1772-Cable-and-NEMA-10-30-Plug-Electric-Vehicle-Charger/5000876759?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-elc-_-ggl-_-PLA_ELC_205_Wiring-Devices-Extension-Cords-_-5000876759-_-online-_-0-_-0&ds_rl=1286981&gclid=Cj0KCQiAi9mPBhCJARIsAHchl1wpzXNe7Gn8FwdrHujt4Nln_B8YY8zDm2vF4MSd9J7pUKk8dz758QIaAsm5EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds


27 posted on 01/30/2022 10:59:17 AM PST by setter
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To: kiryandil

“see post #17”

LOL! Code Toad! You trollers should really get a life!


28 posted on 01/30/2022 10:59:28 AM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: setter; TexasGator; CodeToad; MtnClimber; JBW1949; rktman
Most chargers are at home. You can buy level 2 fast chargers now at Lowes or Home Depot for $699 that plug right into your stove or dryer wiring.

We lost power for 6 hours last night in the middle of the night, after everyone had gone to bed.

I checked my ICE automobile.

It still had a full charge of gasoline.

My neighbor's Tesla?

Not so much...

 face with tears of joy face with tears of joy face with tears of joy

29 posted on 01/30/2022 10:59:58 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“My car was able to recoup roughly 50% battery power while I sat down to see Spider-Man: No Way Home, and the only thing I had to suffer through were the pre-movie commercials. Plus slower charging helps preserve battery health in the long term.”

Golly. THAT’S a real enticement to switch to a “Displaced Emissions Vehicle”!

I have no objection to people/companies pursuing electric vehicles, but they need to admit they are NOT “emission free”! Or CURRENTLY as convenient as gas.


30 posted on 01/30/2022 11:00:05 AM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“And yes, for those that didn’t know, Shell the oil company is also in the EV charging business. So is BP, which is all really weird to think about.”


The author is quite simpleton. The shift to restaurants, travel centers and quick shops at fueling stations has a singular purpose.

So too with these ‘hubs’...particularly for a captive audience.


31 posted on 01/30/2022 11:00:30 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Liberals want us to go from having lots of fuel choices and competition for gas stations to a single monopoly utility company that they can jack the prices all the hell and control everyone.


32 posted on 01/30/2022 11:01:06 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

My ‘05 F350 4x4, Super-Duty, V8 turbo-diesel, Harley edition, is the same.

Purrs like a kitten and I see no reason to change to anything else.

I can get about 500 miles per tank (30 gals).


33 posted on 01/30/2022 11:01:36 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: kiryandil

I live in hurricane land. Electricity out for a week is common with hurricanes.


34 posted on 01/30/2022 11:01:52 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Mr Rogers
Golly. THAT’S a real enticement to switch to a “Displaced Emissions Vehicle”!

“Displaced Emissions Vehicle”

LOL!! Thanks for that!!

35 posted on 01/30/2022 11:02:08 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

In the USA, most electricians are using more aluminum these days due to the cost of copper.


36 posted on 01/30/2022 11:02:34 AM PST by brianl703
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“My most recent electric bill charged $00.16 per kWh Including all tax, additional fees, hidden graft... Subject to change.{”

As you may already know, many States are 22 cents for electricity, and that price is subject to massive increases if EVs become the norm.


37 posted on 01/30/2022 11:02:59 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: JBW1949

“These idiots actually think if we did away with fossil fuels, the rest of the world will also...”


We are not going away from fossil fuels. Never happen.

We are at record production for natural gas right now. Highest in oour history. Biden signed in almost 4000 new wells in 2021.

Coal production is up to the most in 20-25 years.

Don’t believe all the doom and gloom the fossil fuel companies and large corporations control the countries agenda not the politicians.


38 posted on 01/30/2022 11:03:47 AM PST by setter
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To: TexasGator

Don’t call any of us when you get stranded in your EV—we will be too busy laughing hysterically to offer any assistance.


39 posted on 01/30/2022 11:03:58 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I have a Ram EcoDiesel. I can fill up once a day and drive all day long across the country. I’ve made many trips between Denver and Florida; fill up in the morning and still have over 150 miles range at the end of the day.


40 posted on 01/30/2022 11:04:23 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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