Posted on 03/19/2022 4:49:27 PM PDT by conservative98
It is a big deal as far as the global economy is concerned. Like it or not the US exists within the global economy. Not least, this raises risk premiums everywhere, reduces global growth, raises prices everywhere, increases political instability everywhere.
The US is not and cannot be an autarkic fortress America. That was never the case in the past either.
The media is peddling the Ukrainian side. So what’s wrong with hearing from someone peddling the Russian side? We can educate ourselves and then reach our own decision about this situation rather than simply allowing the media to manipulate us via an unrelenting emotional campaign.
Putin had to bring 200,000 troops to the borders of Ukraine, launch a massive invasion, drive millions of people from their homes as refugees, kill tens of thousands of people, including many thousands of young Russians, destroy beautiful historic cities with artillery and bombs and missiles, impose totalitarian censorship controls on his own people and cut his people off from all advanced countries except China.
Really, what choice did he have?
Ukraine affects Eastern Europe, and Western Europe, and thereby the global economy. Russia “winning” is bad for both, and that is in a purely objective old-school sense, a Winston Churchill/Maggie Thatcher and Pope John Paul II sense, not just in a Klaus Schwab sense.
I’m with you.
The Russians are the agressors, and this invasion was completely unjustified.
30 years is a pretty long time to be a free independent country.
America’s Forefathers taught us freedom is worth fighting for.
Charlie Kirk has become a pleasant surprise. I took him for Conservative Inc. but apparently not. Good for him.
Yup. Just wait for all of the war and climate refugees looking for sanctuary.
I thought the same, might have to reevaluate.
” ...the Russians are the aggressors, period.”
What do you propose should be done about it ?
It really should be just about that simple. When Kirk talks about a "Russian Red Line" regarding any NATO overtures to Ukraine he kind of ignores the fact that Putin just did EXACTLY the kind of thing that warrants that overture.
Yeah, Ukraine is corrupt. When the USSR folded into the Federation all the KGB and GRU goons started staking their claims to everything. Yeah, the US had all kinds of folks willing to help those goons out as long as they got a piece of the pie. There is no question that the US and Europeans are part of the problem here but we can't allow Russia to dictate Ukraine policy.
One name that DOESN'T come up in all this corruption talk, however, is Zelensky. The other major name that doesn't come up is Trump. If Ukraine is going to have half a shot at digging themselves out of the Post-Soviet hole they were in (with a lot of help getting there from the US), then Zelensky seems to be the guy that just might be able to get it done. To that end, he needs support. Real, material support.
This is the horsehoe theory. That if you go too far on the right (or left) you actually come around and fine a lot in common with the extreme polar opposite. Some news sources here and posters actually have a lot in common with Antifa and Revolutionary Communist Party (Bob Avakian), pro-CCP (which is pro-Russian invasion/anti-US), so there’s that.
...and funded (directly &/or indirectly) by people like George Soros...
“You’re killin’ me Smalls.”
“America’s Forefathers taught us freedom is worth fighting for.”
And what did they preach about foreign interventions?
What was most of their opinions about standing national armies?
As I recall, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics ceased to exist some time ago.
The craphead Russians invaded Ukraine, get it? I really don’t care if the Ukrainian government all used drugs - the Russians are the aggressors, period.
Thank you, Captain Obvious! What's your point?
Is the United States obligated by treaty to come to Ukraine's defense? No? Then maybe you can list some of the "US vital interests" in Ukraine, that might justify our military intervention (with the associated risk of nuclear war). Is it a long list, or short? Or perhaps you think the US really is 'The World's Policeman' and that we have a moral obligation to get involved? If so, maybe you should run over to Wikipedia, and check out their list of active wars - Russia/Ukraine might have to wait, while Uncle Sam's 'woke' military slaps around 30 or 40 other countries, who were already in line...
What do you make of Ukraine cutting off the water supply to the Crimea? The canal project was a Soviet one, and Ukraine cut it off when Russia annexed Crimea.
Good thing Trump isn’t president. He might get us into WWIII.
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