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(Vanity) Can Governors refuse illegals entering their state?
11/6/2022 | self

Posted on 11/06/2022 7:54:05 AM PST by Moe-Patrick

Is there a law forcing States to accept illegals? If not, DeSantis should refuse illegals sent to Florida. If so, DeSantis should pass a law allowing refusal to accept illegals.


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1 posted on 11/06/2022 7:54:05 AM PST by Moe-Patrick
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To: Moe-Patrick

My understanding is that immigration is a Federal issue and the courts will not allow states to do their own immigration laws.


2 posted on 11/06/2022 7:57:13 AM PST by Kaiser8408a (u)
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To: Moe-Patrick
I doubt it. unless I'm mistaken The Big Guy and his co-conspirators have the last word...unless,perhaps,a Federal judge steps in.
3 posted on 11/06/2022 7:57:19 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (I Miss Jimmy Carter)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Can a school board vote to NOT accept a non English speaking student ?

AFAIK, two months ago, it was revealed at our local board meeting the we "had" two non English speaking students.

4 posted on 11/06/2022 8:00:05 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true . . . I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Moe-Patrick

If AZ and Fla go our way this will get very interesting. Tx not so much, Abbott is more Pence than he is Trump.


5 posted on 11/06/2022 8:02:36 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: Moe-Patrick

Any invaded state can request federal help to repel an invasion, which must be provided under the federal Constitution as per Article IV, Section 4.

Refusal would permit the barring (by federal court order) from government employment of a refusenik (such as President Joe Biden) as per Amendment XIV, Section 3.


6 posted on 11/06/2022 8:03:27 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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“Abbott is more Pence than he is Trump.”

That’s what I think, too. Wuss.


7 posted on 11/06/2022 8:06:21 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Disappointment is inevitable, but discouragement is a choice.)
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I asked because states make their own marijuana laws and sanctuary cities, etc. IOW, states making their own laws despite the federal government.


8 posted on 11/06/2022 8:09:05 AM PST by Moe-Patrick (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem)
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To: Moe-Patrick

Wish a handful of states could refuse federal funding.
That could get interesting.


9 posted on 11/06/2022 8:09:11 AM PST by Leep (Hillary will NEVER be president! 😁)
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To: Moe-Patrick

President Trump enacted such a policy. Going as far as allowing municipalities to make those decisions even if their state government didn’t.

I don’t know of any that took him up on it as they were afraid to become targets of the Left.

Shamefully, most folks don’t really understand the financial burden. The Feds pay all the bills the first couple of years and then the state taxpayers start footing the bill.

The Tennessee legislature tried suing the Soetero administration over the Medicare/Medicaid payments that got dumped onto the state will all the Muslims in Murfreesboro. The Governor and AG, at the time, didn’t sign on to the suit so the legislature had to hire outside counsel. The case wove it’s way through the courts for some time. Finally, being dismissed with prejudice by a judge that said since the Governor and AG weren’t on board, the legislature had “no standing” and the use of outside/private counsel was improper. Imagine hearing that the government body most closely associated to the people, that state legislature, had no standing representing the people.

Shamefully, DeSantis and all the other Republican Governors don’t capitalize on this decision, unite and have all the Republican Governor’s, AGs and state legislatures sue at the same time. I know Kemp would never do it as he was the first, and maybe only, Governor that actually wanted the Afghani’s, being the corrupt POS that he is.


10 posted on 11/06/2022 8:10:32 AM PST by qaz123
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To: Moe-Patrick

States rights.

That why “gay” marriage is unconstitutional..feds forced them to comply.
Like Roe v Wade


11 posted on 11/06/2022 8:10:59 AM PST by Leep (Hillary will NEVER be president! 😁)
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To: Moe-Patrick

And Biden reversed that EO early on.


12 posted on 11/06/2022 8:11:01 AM PST by qaz123
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To: knarf

You must be in a very rural area.
My daughter’s district is in semi-rural Indiana and has 20 out of 1800.


13 posted on 11/06/2022 8:11:44 AM PST by nascarnation (Let's go Brandon!)
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To: Kaiser8408a

“My understanding is that immigration is a Federal issue and the courts will not allow states to do their own immigration laws.”

States undoubtedly lost their positive right to admit persons as of constitutional right on January 1, 1808. IMO, they would retain a negative right to refuse admittance of non-citizens unless Congress passed a law (or the Senate OKed a treaty [applicable to say genuine refugees]) to the contrary.

Immigration is now fully subject to Congressional authority, which may not be fully exercised (I can’t say as I’m not an expert on immigration law).


14 posted on 11/06/2022 8:12:40 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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Trump lets states, cities refuse refugees for 1st time in U.S.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/trump-lets-states-cities-refuse-refugees-for-1st-time-in-u-s


15 posted on 11/06/2022 8:12:50 AM PST by qaz123
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To: Kaiser8408a
My understanding is that immigration is a Federal issue and the courts will not allow states to do their own immigration laws.

How is it that a state or city can declare they are a sanctuary state or city?

16 posted on 11/06/2022 8:14:05 AM PST by notaliberal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle,)
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Governors take federal support to bring in the people who migrate into this country in many cases.

Federal funding equals federal control.

UN-International Law at best only allows countries to shift the migrants not ‘throw them out’.

Australia deals with migrants by shipping them to Indian Ocean and South Pacific islands.

The Biden Administration according to an article in “The Hill” the other week concerned about Haitians coming in big numbers by boat.

They are thinking offshore housing at Guantanamo and elsewhere.

It’s a mess so Abbott and DeSantis move em around they don’t ship them overseas.


17 posted on 11/06/2022 8:16:12 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Moe-Patrick

A lot of people got a thrill from watching DeSantis ship illegals to liberal areas but notice DeSantis didn’t ship them back overseas.


18 posted on 11/06/2022 8:17:41 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Moe-Patrick

DeSantis has not promised to seek the invocation of Article 44 of the Refugee Convention to get the US out from under it.

The Refugee Convention is horribly abused as it creates a (rebuttable) presumption of admissibility and legally merchantable excuse for unlawful entry. This is followed by full welfare entitlement.

I have some level of distrust of any leading US politician who has failed to request a US end to legally entangling Refugee Convention participation.


19 posted on 11/06/2022 8:24:11 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Nextrush

“ship”

DeSantis offered free transport to wealthy areas, which some invaders were happy to accept.


20 posted on 11/06/2022 8:28:42 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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