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Dr. Michael Vlahos & Col. Douglas Macgregor: Why NATO strategic failure? A war of deceit, denial Pt2
Dr. Michael Vlahos ^ | December 9, 2022 | Colonel Douglas MacGregor

Posted on 12/11/2022 12:02:59 AM PST by Cathi

Part 2


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1 posted on 12/11/2022 12:02:59 AM PST by Cathi
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LOL, Douglas Macgregor the anti-Semite? Who will you reference next? Scott Ritter the pedophile or Armstrong the convicted swindler.

The Anti-Semite on Your TV

Fox News host Tucker Carlson’s favorite foreign policy expert has a history of echoing anti-Jewish ideas.

. What they may not know is that he’s also a longtime purveyor of anti-Semitic ideas.

“We have a huge problem with a class of so-called elites, the people who are wealthy, very wealthy in many cases and they are, as the Russians used to call certain individuals many, many years ago, rootless cosmopolitans,” he told the Serbian American Voters Alliance in an October 2021 speech uncovered by Matt Gertz at MediaMatters.

For those understandably unfamiliar with this terminology, “rootless cosmopolitans” is an anti-Semitic euphemism for Jews that was popularized under Stalin in the Soviet Union. Adolf Hitler also repeatedly referred to Jews as disloyal cosmopolitans, lamenting in his manifesto Mein Kampf that “it is no longer princes or their courtesans who contend and bargain about state frontiers, but the inexorable cosmopolitan Jew who is fighting for his own dominion over the nations.” In other words, there is exactly one type of person who uses this sort of language in everyday conversation.

In case his audience missed the point, though, Macgregor added: “They live above all of this, they have no connection to the country. There is nothing there that holds them in place, and they are largely responsible, in my judgment, for the condition that we are in today.”

https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/deep-shtetl/6232acc89277230021b0891c/douglas-macgregor-jewish-tucker-carlson-purim/

2 posted on 12/11/2022 12:45:06 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: tlozo

Do better, propaganda peddler.

The man has more credentials, military experience, etc., etc., than you, your mother, father, and the last 3 generations of your family blood have.

Go figure huh?


3 posted on 12/11/2022 12:59:10 AM PST by cranked
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To: cranked

I stepped in some tlozo, and now I have to wipe my shoe off.


4 posted on 12/11/2022 1:01:33 AM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: tlozo

The early morning shift sux. Copy&Pasting your way through life must suck even more. tloser will stick to you like glue.


5 posted on 12/11/2022 2:41:34 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!! He will win 2024!)
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To: Cathi
Comment on the the video's YOUTUBE page:


6 posted on 12/11/2022 3:00:34 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: tlozo

Yep,,when you hear “cosmopolitan” that is code for Jew.

Explains McGregor. Hates his country because those conniving Jews are in charge.

I thought we defeated those bastards in WWII...


7 posted on 12/11/2022 3:14:42 AM PST by FreshPrince
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In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Dr. Michael Vlahos & Col. Douglas Macgregor: Why NATO strategic failure? A war of deceit, denial Pt2, FreshPrince wrote:

Yep,,when you hear “cosmopolitan” that is code for Jew.

Explains McGregor. Hates his country because those conniving Jews are in charge.

I thought we defeated those bastards in WWII...

MacGregor expresses disgust that Zelensky's military has a Nazi core, that the US is propping up Zelensky's Nazi military. If MacGregor had been what you said, he would have been rooting for the Neo Nazis at the heart of the leadership of the Ukrainian military.

Yes, I know Zelensky is Jewish, and I recall reading a rabbi's comment that Z had betrayed his people. There were traitors to the people in the concentration camps in WWII, also, selling out their Jewish peers in exchange for special treatment. Porn stars like Zelensky have no loyalty; they sell themselves along with everyone else.


8 posted on 12/11/2022 3:50:09 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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Mc gregor hates z because he believes he is a puppet of those jews known as the wef. ( his belief not mine)


9 posted on 12/11/2022 4:22:50 AM PST by FreshPrince
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To: tlozo
You're quoting The Atlantic? The Atlantic? REALLY?
10 posted on 12/11/2022 4:31:44 AM PST by sauropod (Fascists also buy Comcast cable packages" - Olby - Wanna buy mine?)
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To: Cathi

bkmk


11 posted on 12/11/2022 4:32:17 AM PST by sauropod (Fascists also buy Comcast cable packages" - Olby - Wanna buy mine?)
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You're quoting The Atlantic? The Atlantic? REALLY?

I referenced the Atlantic, because the author of the article, Yair Rosenberg, extensively quoted Douglas Macgregor, leaving no doubt as to what he said.

12 posted on 12/11/2022 4:50:48 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: ransomnote

Z is a porn star?

I am afraid to ask how you know this?


13 posted on 12/11/2022 8:31:19 AM PST by FreshPrince
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To: FreshPrince

14 posted on 12/11/2022 9:51:21 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: FreshPrince

Wow! So that’s how you do it? You just make up anything you want on the fly. I mean, here’s you’re making up motives etc. Well you’ve been making up so much it’s just like breathing for you now.


15 posted on 12/11/2022 9:54:07 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

Ummm ..thats not porn....dont ask me how i know...


16 posted on 12/11/2022 10:10:44 AM PST by FreshPrince
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To: ransomnote

Making things up?

U did say this:

“Porn stars like Zelensky...”


17 posted on 12/11/2022 10:11:50 AM PST by FreshPrince
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To: FreshPrince; sauropod

Sorry to repeat myself, but:

Tlozo keeps posting that, but it does not mean Col. Macgregor meant that in the old Soviet sense. There are plenty of rootless cosmopolitans in this era of globalism. And I suspect he’s smart enough to know anti-Semitism does not play well before a Serb audience. Serbs did their best to rescue and protect Jews when the Nazis invaded, and risked their lives doing so. They despise everything Nazi and anti-Semitic.

Little-known facts: Serbs saved the odious neocon Albright (who is of Jewish descent) and her family not once but twice. Her father was attaché to the Czechoslovakian embassy in Belgrade when the Nazis invaded. Serbs saved them from being deported to a concentration camp and helped them escape to Britain. The second time was after WWII when her father became ambassador to Belgrade. Back home in Czechoslovakia after the communist coup in 1948, the commies were rounding up all the liberal democrats, of which her father was known to be one. They were given protected refuge in Serbia until they escaped to the US. We all know how she repaid their kindness.

No, Madcow did not turn Serbs against Jews, not at all. When the KLA drove every last Jew out of Kosovo in 1999 (what few were left after the Nazis and their Albanian allies got done with them during WWII), they were welcomed in Serbia.

Mcgregor has also been accused of anti-Semitism because he slammed “neocons” — as if all neocons are Jews. You can guess who is so eager to smear him. Yes, neocons and globalists (who are almost always both things at the same time).

I have always called out anti-Semitism when I have seen it on FR, and have a record of doing so. I haven’t noticed you doing that, but perhaps I missed it.

Another little-known fact. Neocons turn to PR firms, among other things, to gin up support for their wars and win over influential groups (including Jewish groups) who might oppose those wars.

While we’re on the subject of Serbs and Jews:

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Among the public relations firms that played a crucial role in demonizing the Serbs was Ruder & Finn, a paid representa- tive at one time or another for Croatia, Muslim Bosnia, and the Albanian parliamentary opposition in Kosovo. Ruder & Finn’s director, James Harff, boasted of disseminating sensationalistic reports that caused a dramatic increase in public support for US intervention in Bosnia. As Harff told French journalist Jacques Merlino in April 1993, he was proudest of how his firm had manipulated Jewish public opinion.

It was an achievement of some delicacy since Croatian president Franjo Tudjman “was very careless in his book, Wastelands of Historical Truth,” for which he could be found guilty of anti-Semitism.” Bosnian president Alija Izetbegovic also posed serious image problems because his book The Islamic Declaration, “revealed too much support for a Muslim fundamentalist state.” Moreover, the pasts of Croatia and Bosnia were marked by real and cruel anti-Semitism,” Harff admitted. “Tens of thousands of Jews perished in Croatian camps, so there was every reason for intellectuals and Jewish organizations to be hostile toward the Croats and the [Muslim] Bosnians. Our challenge was to reverse this attitude and we succeeded masterfully.”” After Newsday published Roy Gutman’s stories about the reputed Serbian death camps, Harff’s people were able to mobilize several major Jewish organizations — the B’nai Brith Anti-Defamation League, the American Jewish Committee, and the American Jewish Congress:

“That was a tremendous coup. When the Jewish organizations entered the game on the side of the [Muslim] Bosnians, we could promptly equate the Serbs with the Nazis in the public mind. Nobody understood what was happening in Yugoslavia. By a single move we were able to present a simple story of good guys and bad guys which would hereafter play itself. Almost immediately there was a clear change of language in the press, with use of words with high emotional content such as “ethnic cleansing” and “concentration camps,” which evoke images of Nazi Germany and the gas chambers of Auschwitz.”

When Merlino pointed out, “When you did this, you had no proof that what you said was true. All you had were two Newsday articles,” Harff replied: “Our work is not to verify information.... Our work is to accelerate the circulation of information favorable to us ... We are professionals. We had a job to do and we did it. We are not paid to moralize.”

Without wishing to diminish Harff’s sense of achievement, I would point out that Ruder & Finn was so successful not primarily because of its “masterful” promotional ploys. It did what many public relations firms would do: manipulate images, bend information in serviceable ways, send out press releases, try to plant stories, target key groups, lobby Congress and the like. What made the firm’s efforts so effective was the eager receptivity of Western media, who —taking their cues from officialdom — were themselves creating an anti-serb climate of opinion many months before Ruder & Finn‘s PR campaign.

[Above quote from To Kill a Nation: The Attack on Yugoslavia
by Michael Parenti, pp 91-93 — It’s available on Google Books, but the url is so long it would mess up the page here on FR and I don’t feel like messing with html at the moment.]
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See how it works? Why do you think Kuwait hired Hill & Knowlton and six other American PR firms at behest of neocons in our government in 1990? And why Croatia, the Bosnian Muslim leadership and the narco-mafia KLA thugs of Kosovo hired Ruder-Finn and other such firms, also under the guidance of American neocons in power during the 1990s wars in former Yugoslavia? And why Hillary! was so eager to hook up her pet Libyan terrorist barbarians with an influential Beltway PR and lobbying firm and ensure they had the money to pay them well in 2014? The Ukrainians use Yorktown Solutions and KARV Communications, among others. Mercury (which also represented our CIA Libyan pet, Haftar, and had up until recently lobbied for Russian interests) has now scrambled to switch sides and represents a pro-Ukrainian organization.

And yes, various American PR firms, lobbying firms and individual lobbyists are being paid very big bucks by Ukraine for their services. (Your tax dollars at work — send more and more billions!)

Anyway Ruder-Finn hoodwinking and winning over American Jewish groups to not oppose the neocons’ support of Holocaust-denier Franjo Tudjman back in the 1990s was not the first nor last time they propagandized American Jewish groups so as to use them to their ends. Some Israelis see straight through it. Here is a defense of Macgregor published in The Jerusalem Post:

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Macgregor believes that Israel must have defensible borders and that President Trump’s decision to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem was long overdue.

It is upsetting to discover that former US colonel Dr. Douglas MacGregor has been accused of antisemitism. This, to prevent his appointment as US ambassador to Germany. Some American Jewish groups echoed these accusations, but they are misinformed and are being exploited for partisan political purposes.

More at link:
https://m.jpost.com/opinion/antisemitism-accusations-against-dr-douglas-macgregor-are-deeply-upsetting-639119

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For all the talk about Nazis on FR, neither side seems to understand the Bandera type neo-Nazis in Ukraine. They are not like the fringe neo-Nazis here in the States, nor are they like the neo-Nazis in Germany and Scandinavia. They are more like, although not exactly like, the Ustaše type neo-Nazis of Croatia. Their prime target of hatred is not Jews, but rather their brother Slavs. In Croatia, it was the Serbs. In Ukraine, it’s Russian speakers.

Croats and the ethnic Serbs of Croatia both came from the same stock, were genetically identical (except for the Dalmatians along the coast), spoke the same language, but differed in a few cultural ways (religion being the most obvious — Catholic vs Orthodox). Same for Ukrainians/Russians: they come from the same stock and are genetically homogenous (except for some Galicians in Western Ukraine), although owing to separation thanks to the Mongols then European empires, speak languages that are distinct but mostly mutually-intelligible.

Both Croatia and Ukraine lie on the ancient fault lines between the Catholic West and the Orthodox East. Ukrainians, Russians, Croats and Serbs have had to fight off Muslim invaders in their turns (Mongols, Tatars, Ottoman Turks) and this, too, has left its mark on them all. Both countries have lain for centuries on the frontiers* of mighty empires and often served as their battlefields, been swallowed up by bordering empires, and their peoples have been pulled apart then forced together over and over again. It’s no wonder their civil wars are so hideous.

Neither had ever been its very own country until the early 1990s, and had no experience in self rule.

Anyway, just as the neocons did not hesitate to propagandize and cynically use American Jewish groups when taking the side of Croats back in the 1990s, they have no qualms about doing it again now in our proxy war against Russia using Ukraine as our battleground, Ukrainians as cannon fodder. Nor do the neocons have any qualms when it comes to playing the anti-Semite card against their critics.


18 posted on 12/11/2022 1:28:03 PM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: tlozo
Do you have no self-awareness what The Atlantic actually is??
19 posted on 12/11/2022 1:32:55 PM PST by sauropod (Fascists also buy Comcast cable packages" - Olby - Wanna buy mine?)
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To: CatHerd
I have always called out anti-Semitism when I have seen it on FR,and have a record of doing so. I haven’t noticed you doing that, but perhaps I missed it.

Ummm, just to be clear.

I support Israel as a requirement of my faith.

I hope that was written to someone else, as I have (to my knowledge) never posted anything anti-Israel as long as I have been here (Apr 1998). I have always posted with a pro-Israel orientation.

Cheers, 'Pod

20 posted on 12/11/2022 1:41:11 PM PST by sauropod (Fascists also buy Comcast cable packages" - Olby - Wanna buy mine?)
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