Posted on 12/23/2022 7:30:12 PM PST by DoodleBob
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“Then why not tell children the gifts are from Jesus?
In the end you’re fine with lying to your children so long as it is your kind of lie. People like you is why I walked away from organized religion and have no intention of ever returning. Your efforts to prove to men how righteous you are falls flat.”
Sounds to me like your looking for a scape goat to blame for your lack of faith in the One True God.
This has nothing to do with self righteousness.
I myself also have no use for religion. I choose Christianity over religion.
Religion is man’s way to God. Christianity is God’s way for man to unite with Him, by sending His only begotten Son to die on the Cross for the forgiveness of sins.
Religion gave us fables about a flying santa being led by reindeer. And from that one lie begets another lie in order to reinforce the first lie.
Pretty soon Merry Christmas becomes “x-mas” and it’s all about a fable and commercialism. No acceptance for a Manger in the public square because santa has replaced the Lord Jesus.
The world is in the shape its in today because Jesus is rejected by the world. And those who are rejecting Jesus will readily defend a lie about some fat cat in a red suit flying through the air with a team of reindeer. So defend the big lie all you want, but as for me and my house we will serve the Lord.
Santa... began benignly enough I don’t reason why I don’t understand nor do I reason how Jesus became sidelined.
Perhaps appointing Christmas around the same time that solstice gods were celebrated was a mistake.
You're full of it. Who are you to decide my level of faith in God? That is your self righteous spirit flowing. Have a Merry Christmas, just make sure you don't do any gift giving especially to your children. Also, don't accept any gifts either.
Then tell them about Jesus, which is the truth.
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“You’re full of it. Who are you to decide my level of faith in God? That is your self righteous spirit flowing.”
......says the one accusing others of being self righteous.
Have a Merry Christmas
“Then tell them about Jesus, which is the truth“
Circling back, the Spirit of Christmas is real. I believe seasonal evidence, because humans without faith are blind, of the Holy Spirit.
Santa is a now secularized way of remembering the Spirit of Christmas. It’s still God’s Hand.
As attributed to Franklin, “Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy”.
Starting early this Christmas Eve day, with some family recipe eggnog, featuring some Bushmills.
Merry Christmas to all.
cue Silent Night, oh Little Town of Bethlehem, Hark the Herald Angels Sing, Joy to the World, and all of Handel’s Messiah with an extra Hallelujah Chorus.
Hallelujah!!
yup, no self-respecting pilot would use a missile, waaay too impersonal...
I don’t believe that Jesus lied, though I may interpret some things He said differently than you do.
What bothers me most about the fundamentalist rigidity displayed here over Santa, is that it turns a lot of people away from Jesus, instead of toward Him. People don’t have to believe exactly as you or your sect to benefit from the promise of Jesus. I think Jesus and God can handle their own business in that regard.
Some people seem to find arrogance and self-satisfaction in their beliefs and in criticizing those who don’t fully accept them. I don’t consider that to be religion or spirituality or even faithfulness. It’s a form of ego.
I don’t know anyone who became a ‘cold, calculating, scheming troll’ because of a childhood belief in Santa. Most that I know grew up to be jolly and generous and to love Christmas and making it for others.
I wasn’t speaking of “Santa”; I was speaking of your comments about Jonah and whether or not Jesus also considered the Jonah tale Myth or true history. The scripture I gave in contect indicates that Jesus considered Jonah’s “fish tale”, real history. I was asking you to square your own belief that the Jonah tale was a myth when Jesus considered Jonah real history, real history enough that Jesus used Jonah’s experience as a simile for his own coming death and resurrection. The argument was modiefied in asking then as to the sorts of miracles that Mr Jamestown1630 will accept as being true as described in the Bible.
People will turn away from Jesus for all sorts of excuses, the blame for which they’ll try to lay at the feet of Christians. Some of the blame may be justified but most blame arises from the “yes but...”, “what about this...” goal post moving mentality people will use to avoid the serious claims of Christ and his call for their repentance. Thus in encountering that sort of resistance, no Christian can ever be reasonable enough, or nice enough, nor even “scientific enough” to suit that soul who simply will not confront their own sin and confess Christ.
Christ said, when he spoke of the parable of the Rich man and Lazarus, that even if a person who rose from the dead to give testimony of their experience, most unbelievers, comfortble enough in their own darkness, still wouldn’t believe it.
I have no official opinions of Satan save to say the “current model” is an unhelpful muddying of the the real story of St. Nicholas. Christmas should be decommercialized but I don’t feel so strongly about it that i would wish to lead protests and parades!
The only question you asked me was whether I thought Jesus was a ‘liar’.
I answered it.
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