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Steely Dan vs John Lennon: The Feud That Signified the End of The Beatles Era
Far Out Magazine ^ | SAT 21ST JAN 2023 | Tom Taylor

Posted on 01/28/2023 11:27:55 AM PST by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway

“. . . cultural zenith akin to the great renaissance period confined to about seven short years from Bob Dylan’s The Freewheelin’ Bob Dylan in 1963 to Woodstock in 1969. ‘

I enjoyed the hell out the ‘60’s, but “great renaissance period”? - give me a break - there’s a lot to be said for music that’s fun and readily-available weed, but that’s a far cry from an intellectual zenith, and typical of a counter-culture that took itself way too seriously.


21 posted on 01/28/2023 11:49:47 AM PST by Stosh
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To: nickcarraway

I’ll take Oingo Boingo

Capitalism

There’s nothing wrong with the capitalism
There’s nothing wrong with free enterprise
Don’t try to make me feel guilty
I’m so tired of hearing you cry
There’s nothing wrong with making some profit
If you ask me, I’ll say it’s just fine
There’s nothing wrong with wanting to live nice
I’m so tired of hearing you whine
About the revolution or bringin’ down the rich
When was the last time you dug a ditch, baby?!

[Verse 2]
If it ain’t one thing, then it’s the other
Any cause that crosses your path
Your heart bleeds for anyone’s brother
I’ve got to tell you you’re a pain in the ass
You criticize with plenty of vigor
You rationalize everything that you do
With catchy phrases and heavy quotations
And everybody is crazy but you

[Chorus]
You’re just a middle class socialist brat
From a suburban family and you never really had to work
And you tell me that you’ve got to get back
To the struggling masses (whoever they are)
You talk, talk, talk about the suffering and pain
Your mouth is bigger than your entire brain
What the hell do you know about suffering and pain, you dumb f___?


22 posted on 01/28/2023 11:52:42 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

Apples and oranges really. Steely Dan’s music was more jazz influenced, a different style altogether from the Beatles IMO.

Both were great in their own, unique way.


23 posted on 01/28/2023 11:53:18 AM PST by Starboard
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To: PhiloBedo

You a big De La Soul fan?


24 posted on 01/28/2023 11:53:18 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: OKSooner

Took their name from a William Burroughs “character.”


25 posted on 01/28/2023 11:54:54 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: OKSooner

Took their name from a William Burroughs “character.”


26 posted on 01/28/2023 11:54:55 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: nickcarraway

‘Imagine’ wasn’t a prayer for peace; it was a atheistic neo-Marxist anthem that, as usual, refused to acknowledge our fallen human nature. By this author’s reckoning then, that would put Steely Dan firmly in the Judeo-Christian camp. Only a propagandist would call ‘Imagine’ a prayer.


27 posted on 01/28/2023 11:55:24 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: ifinnegan

Thing about people who think Steely Dan sucked, they’re idiots copping a position to be “controversial”.


28 posted on 01/28/2023 11:56:56 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: nickcarraway

Just me, but I did not care for the music of either of them.


29 posted on 01/28/2023 11:58:27 AM PST by doorgunner69 (Let's go Brandon)
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To: nickcarraway

Well, get back Jack, do it again...


30 posted on 01/28/2023 11:58:44 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: ifinnegan

Yes, one has heard that story.


31 posted on 01/28/2023 12:00:20 PM PST by OKSooner (War is a racket. COVID-19 is a racket.)
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To: nickcarraway

My favorite song from “Can’t Buy A Thrill”, is “Turn That Heartbeat Over Again”, only Steely Dan could do a song like that.


32 posted on 01/28/2023 12:02:07 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ifinnegan

Go back Jack and do it again.


33 posted on 01/28/2023 12:04:15 PM PST by samadams2000
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To: discostu

Sure it’s a bit of a troll, but I mean it.

I hate most of that late 60’s, 70’s Rock.

It also ties in so much with codification of the liberal left establishment that’s become totalitarianism today.


34 posted on 01/28/2023 12:04:30 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: dfwgator

LOL

I was wanting him to get around to Zappa’s opinion of it all. That must be in the sequel.


35 posted on 01/28/2023 12:04:33 PM PST by OKSooner (War is a racket. COVID-19 is a racket.)
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To: samadams2000

Almost not a bad song.


36 posted on 01/28/2023 12:04:49 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: nuconvert
I tend to view Lennon and McCartney the same way I view Roger Aaters and David Gilmour.

There is certainly explosive talent and creativity in the collaborative power of these duos.

But Lennon and Waters' solo efforts are pretty...well...weak. In contrast, Macca and, to a lesser extent, Gilmour's solo content is strong.

Camille Paglia nailed it, when she said any creative or whimsical fire in John got snuffed by Yoko. Indeed, Lennon's best solo output came during his Lost Weekend.

John is in the Rock Hall and I'm not, so your mileage may very.

37 posted on 01/28/2023 12:06:09 PM PST by DoodleBob ( Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: OKSooner

Zappa didn’t care much for John and Yoko....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbAt3P8S-AQ


38 posted on 01/28/2023 12:06:20 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: nickcarraway

The Beatles were comprised of the greatest singer songwriter of all time, Paul McCartney, and his John-George-Ringo backup band.


39 posted on 01/28/2023 12:07:16 PM PST by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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To: DoodleBob

Difference is Waters did the vast majority of the writing, Gilmour wrote very few PF songs. Even after Waters left, Gilmour’s wife actually wrote a lot of the post-Waters PF songs.


40 posted on 01/28/2023 12:07:40 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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