Posted on 02/23/2023 11:11:30 PM PST by kjam22
Prayers please. Barefoot and in shorts….. I went out to pickup in the garage to retrieve my I pad . Decided to get handgun also….out of the console between seats. Leaned in and got them. Leaning back out and dropped the gun. Landed on the concrete in garage. One in the chamber, not cocked, on safety, and in a holster. It discharged into my left leg about half way between ankle and knee. Broke both bones. I mean completely. Did not hit an artery.
Gun was a 90’s model Springfield 45. It is a P9 series, double/single action, but chambered in 45 caliber. Im in hospital. Suppose to do surgery tomorrow.
So I can cross shooting myself with my own 45 off my bucket list.
Yeah, it hurt bad. Legion of police showed up when wife called 911. Rough ambulance ride to the hospital. I dont recommend this.
Appreciate all prayers. Thank you
Had an old ww2 1911 .45, loved that piece. Had one in the pipe and it was on half cock safety. I went to slide it in my waistband and it went off sending the hollow point .45 slicing thru my hip. Had a gunsmith go over the gun, there was no impact point on the primer of the round, the action didn’t cycle indicating that the slide had been pushed far enough back to rob the system of the needed power to cycle the action. The primer showed an outward bubbling from heat. The gunsmiths opinion was a touchy primer, the action of sliding the gun in the waistband moved the slide back that caused enough of a flat impact on the primer to set it off. Rule learned, keep the pipe clear at all times till you want to shoot.
No one recommends carrying a 1911 that way. Cocked and locked.
The Springfield clone is a relabeled Tanfoglio TZ-75, if that helps figure it out. The TZ-75 shipped with a troublesome firing pin and block system, but Springfield just removed that instead of waiting for Tanfoglio to fix it.
It locks the slide in place to prevent it from going out of battery (a significant concern for Army officials) and it locks the cocked hammer so it can’t go forward.
Thanks. I thought so but wasn’t sure. Still a floating firing pin but it is deep in the frame and not easily struck. I don’t know if a drop straight on the end of the barrel on a hard surface could jar the pin forward enough to strike the primer if the pistol was cocked and locked. Seems unlikely.
Prayers for a swift recovery !
Prayers up FRiend, for an uneventful recovery!
If I recall correctly, it *can* do that in a muzzle drop scenario. This is one reason why people started suing Colt in the 1970s when the 1911 and other automatics became vastly more popular for concealed carry and 1911s started hitting the ground while loaded with cartridges possessing softer primers than what the military loads use.
Colt’s solution was the Series 80 with the firing pin block. Other makers later returned the Series 70 design to production but with a titanium firing pin (among other adaptations.) A titanium pin doesn’t mass enough to hit a commercial primer with sufficient force to detonate it in a drop.
GunMagWarehouse had a pretty good article about the differences: https://gunmagwarehouse.com/blog/1911-series-70-vs-series-80/
Studies have shown that no, it isn’t enough to deter most criminals. All it does is tell them where you are and indicate that you don’t keep your pistol fully loaded and ready for action.
My thought was the pin wouldn’t have the mass to overcome the spring, but I wouldn’t care to test the theory on a live round.
Thanks for the link.
Ouch!
Sorry that this happened. Glad it didn’t hit an artery.
Take care of yourself.
How is this even possible?
Prayers for a speedy recovery.
Freegards
AHHhh...
This would explain it!
You shake my nerves and you rattle my brain
Too much love drives a man insane
You broke my will
But what a thrill
Goodness gracious, great balls of fire!
You shake my nerves and you rattle my brain
Too much love drives a man insane
You broke my will
But what a thrill
Goodness gracious, great balls of fire!
Au contraire, mon ami!
When my first kidney stone hitme outside of Durango CO, the ambulance ride was most pleasant - after the morphine kicked in.
This is basically what I did after my last motorcycle wreck; nearly 60 years ago.
I have one of these.
I wonder if it would fire since it has no exposed hammer?
🙏🏼 Prayers up for a full recovery!
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