Posted on 12/28/2023 11:45:34 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
One key to making EV adoption to work is fast charging. People that are used to filling up their gas tanks in mere minutes won’t be so easily swayed by the idea of having to sit at a charging station for nearly an hour.
In charging testing done by Edmunds, they found the fastest and slowest charging EVs on the market. While Edmunds used metrics like miles per charging hour to mainly measure the speed, it can come off a bit confusing. So we’ll stick with their basic metric here: the time it took to get to 100 miles of range. The EVs here are the slowest charging EVs they tested, in order from least slowest to slowest.
Ford F-150 Lightning Lariat Extended Range - Average time to add 100 miles of range: 18 mins 4 seconds
Ford Mustang Mach-E Premium Extended Range RWD - Average time to add 100 miles of range: 18 mins 15 seconds
Ford F-150 Lightning Platinum -/Average time to add 100 miles of range: 18 mins 47 seconds
Rivian R1T Launch Edition (21-inch wheels) - Average time to add 100 miles of range: 19 mins
Rivian R1T Launch Edition (20-inch wheels) - Average time to add 100 miles of range: 19 mins 3 seconds
Ford Mustang Mach-E Premium AWD - Average time to add 100 miles of range: 20 mins 26 seconds
Ford Mustang Mach-E GT Performance - Average time to add 100 miles of range: 23 mins 22 seconds
Chevrolet Bolt - Average time to add 100 miles of range: 33 mins 31 seconds
Chevrolet Bolt EUV - Average time to add 100 miles of range: 34 mins 49 seconds
(Excerpt) Read more at jalopnik.com ...
Meanwhile, ICE cars get about 400 miles in about 2 minutes.
I filled up at the pump last night with 89 octane in 4 minutes.
People tend to eat at least one meal during a day’s travel.
Chargers could be placed at highway exit restaurants and at motels.
A motel charger would typically top up the batteries and a restaurant charger would come close.
If you are in the Interstate highway gasoline business plan to get into the restaurant and fast charging business.
The ‘greenest’ way to charge is often going to be during the middle of the day while your EV is parked while you are at work since solar panel electricity will most likely be available.
I have a Ford Mustang GT. Holds about 14.5 Gallons, about 300 mile range.
It takes about 5 - 7 minutes to fill, depending on the speed of the pump.
A little more info on the “charging wars”
4C batteries are just arriving for electric vehicles.
They can charge at a rate of about 250 miles per 10 minutes, or 1500 miles per hour.
There are 5c batteries in development, which if they are brought to production would be a 250 mile charge in 5 minutes, which is strangely enough, about the time to gas up a 15 gallon tank with standard commercial gasoline pumps.
My family and I just picked out a restaurant for dinner tonight. Not one second was used choosing a restaurant near a charger.
Your argument sucks into the twisted totalitarian mentality.
What glue are you sniffing?
Expect to see signs with EV kwh charging prices that fluctuate during the day. The prices will typically drop (because of an excess home solar panel electricity) from 10am to about 11:30am, rise for lunchtime and take a dip from 1:30pm to about 3:30pm.
If you spend enough for lunch (and to pay for your electricity and charger time), your EV charging will be indirectly paid via the restaurant hosting the chargers.
This country is probably going to be run by Biden’s puppet masters for a long time.
They are not afraid to shut down non-compliant businesses as we have witnessed in recent years.
“twisted totalitarian mentality”
ruled Germany.
And it is permeating the USA fast.
Another fallacy to your argument is wha constitutes a day of travel. For me, is usually 600-800 miles. I’ve done 1000.
Say 3 tanks of gas at 7 minutes each. Total 21 minutes. M wife makes a sandwich ya I eat while driving.
The data in the article was as much as 35 minutes to charge enough to drive 100 miles. Using that argument one would waste four whole hours sitting and going nowhere.
Those things aren’t for long haul drivers. Full stop. If someone for whatever reason wants an EV and also wants to drive regularly on big road trips, they want a regular ICE instead or in addition.
It’d be interesting to see numbers on people’s real drives and how often they really do the road warrior runs. Last time I drove those 500, 600, etc. daily distances on a trip was 1999. Hated it. Not fun nor “vacation” at all, just tedious and tiring.
Good solution if you are only one needing a charge. But let’s assume filling a gas tank takes 5 minutes. And fully charging an EV takes 20 minutes. And let’s assume half the cars are EV. And assume an interstate gas station has 16 gas pumps. Half (8) will be replaced with chargers. Charger takes 4 times as long, so you end up with 8 gas pumps and 32 chargers. And that’s optimistic.
I guess I’m a long hauler. My job has me on the road a lot. I take too much gear to fly. 10 hour drives are common.
I’m at my mother in laws house today. It’s about 700 miles away. This trip was the first time we’ve ever broken it into two days.
I just order a camper top for my truck. When it gets built, we’ll drive from
Maryland to Washington to pick it up. 2500 miles each way. Far more freedom than riding in a flying bus.
“”solar panel electricity will most likely be available””
So.....sunshine will also, most likely, be available?
Perhaps the solar panel electricity will have a backup plan - wind energy, because, as everyone knows, the wind is always available.
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