Been meaning to watch this one.
He states that he was reporting to a sick woman's house and got infected when she coughed.
I am not going to question his NDE, but getting it from a non historical flu epidemic in California in 1994?
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These NDE things are less scientific than psychology itself.
Purely objective reports. No corroboration by a third party (or even a second party).
“I died a white man; but i was not really dead. I woke up as a red/brown/black boy/girl/woman.”
YMMV
God isn’t given tours of Heaven. You are to die only one time.
“There’s sort of dead, mostly dead, and all dead. This fella here, he’s only sort of dead.”
Uh...you don’t need a “flu epidemic” to get the flu...
wasn’t AIDS the disease back then?
The symptoms would have been very different though.
For those who don’t watch videos. Seems to be a syncretist. Shamanism, Kundalini.
NDE have been recorded for years. There have been plenty of scientists studying it. There are thousands of events. It IS possible to take those events and build a statistical model that gives the main points of the process.
Can it be confirmed but a third party? I am not sure how that would be “rigged” but no, that experience is a one at a time thing.
Just because it doesn’t fit in with your view of the afterlife, religion, or God, doesn’t mean it is not real to the people who experience it.
The worst part of any religion is its rigidity to being “right.”
They cannot ALL be right. And by the time we find out, it’s too late to tell anyone else. So…anyone getting too worked up about this stuff should check themselves. It’s OK to listen, think about it an not believe.
NDEs really aren't evidence of anything.
The question that needs to be asked is.... are you a Christian and a believer in Jesus Christ and his resurrection? If so, you believe in the soul, the spirit ... and that when you die, the soul or spirit does not die with the body, but goes on.... somehow... some where “else”...hopefully to Heaven.
That said... unless you’re a non-believer that believes that when you die...that’s it, there’s nothing else after that.... no heaven, no hell, no afterlife of any kind...
then NDEs, OBEs, etc. are quite logical. Perhaps an NDE or OBE could be considered a “glitch”, so to speak. But since when has the universe been flawlessly “glitch-proof”? And who knows... perhaps God had a reason for those “glitches”.
FYI
Just won't bet my behavior on it. If I find myself alone, riding in the green fields with the sun on my face, I won't be troubled. For I am in Elysium, and I'm already dead!
I had a date with a gal from work and when I dropped her off at home, her ex boyfriend pulled up in his car and jumped out and pointed a gun at me and told me to gtf out of there......I said, give me three steps......
That was long before concealed carry was even discussed............
She never dated me again and moved on to date her dept. manager and ultimately married him and lived happily ever after until he died about 8 years ago.........
Shaman Oaks is NOT a Christian site! Its subjects are seldom if ever about Jesus, and follow a Universalist “Everybody’s going to get to Heaven” line of blasphemy, as well as reincarnation garbage. I believe it is meant, by the enemy of our souls, Satan, to get people to believe that it is not necessary to believe in the Lord to get to Heaven. Having said that, I do believe that the Lord will reveal Himself to those who have never heard of Him, in the nanosecond before they hit eternity, to give them an opportunity to accept Him. The Lord hates unjust scales, and to not give those who have never heard of Him to be damned is not just.
If he’s still walking around he never died. His heart may have needed to be restarted but, at worst, he almost died. I have no doubts anoxia produces some weird mental effects but if you survived, you didn’t die.
Update: influenza activity—worldwide, 1994
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
A friend of mine is a cardiologist in the Netherlands. His research was published in the Lancet.
“Near-death experience in survivors of cardiac arrest: a prospective study in the Netherlands”
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(01)07100-8/abstract
In a prospective study, we included 344 consecutive cardiac patients who were successfully resuscitated after cardiac arrest in ten Dutch hospitals. We compared demographic, medical, pharmacological, and psychological data between patients who reported NDE and patients who did not (controls) after resuscitation.
In a longitudinal study of life changes after NDE, we compared the groups 2 and 8 years later.
Findings
62 patients (18%) reported NDE, of whom 41 (12%) described a core experience. Occurrence of the experience was not associated with duration of cardiac arrest or unconsciousness, medication, or fear of death before cardiac arrest.
Frequency of NDE was affected by how we defined NDE, the prospective nature of the research in older cardiac patients, age, surviving cardiac arrest in first myocardial infarction, more than one cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) during stay in hospital, previous NDE, and memory problems after prolonged CPR.
Depth of the experience was affected by sex, surviving CPR outside hospital, and fear before cardiac arrest. Significantly more patients who had an NDE, especially a deep experience, died within 30 days of CPR (p<0·0001).
The process of transformation after NDE took several years, and differed from those of patients who survived cardiac arrest without NDE.
Interpretation
We do not know why so few cardiac patients report NDE after CPR, although age plays a part. With a purely physiological explanation such as cerebral anoxia for the experience, most patients who have been clinically dead should report one.
Been meaning to watch this one.
I guess what I had was a DE, not an NDE. I was playing basketball with friends on an outdoor court Thanksgiving weekend of 2018. The last thing I remember was posting up on the left side of the foul lane; then everything went white. The next thing I remember was awakening in the hospital five days later (they tell me). I had zero pulse or respiration (they tell me). I had been kept in an induced coma and was being revived.
I have no memory of anything happening while I was "out". But thanks to the Grace of God and prompt medical care, I'm here to talk about it.