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Old Harvard Crimson Interview Reveals A More Radical John Kerry [MUST READ]
The Harvard Crimson ^
| Feb 11, 2004
| ZACHARY M. SEWARD
Posted on 02/11/2004 6:15:16 AM PST by nwrep
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To: AngryJawa
Ford made the Blackmail issue this morning on FOX.I didn't watch this a.m. -- what the heck did he mean? And which Ford?
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posted on
02/11/2004 7:09:01 AM PST
by
Elkiejg
(Clintons and Democrats have ruined America)
To: nwrep
In the context of the Vietnam War, those comments are completely understandable, said ReichYeah, and Hitler was great for making the trains run on time too. It's all in the context, you know.
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posted on
02/11/2004 7:10:44 AM PST
by
Dr.Deth
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To: nwrep
His remarks were appropriate for the time???
Then how come his votes kiling the CIA funding confirm these remarks more than 30 years later???
To: nwrep
Kerry said he wanted to almost eliminate CIA activity. Oh my. Lot's of good stuff on the forum today ;-)
To: nwrep
After reading this I have decided that our new slogan has to be either one of the following "Scary Kerry" or "Kerry is Scary" and based upon this tidbit, he really IS.
To: nwrep
And so it start!!!
Do you hear that sound, Mr. Kerry? That is the sound of inevitability.
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posted on
02/11/2004 7:21:46 AM PST
by
CWW
(The Passion -- See it, then live it!)
To: nwrep
Good find!
I saw another article refer to the old Harvard Crimson article, but I am glad the HC decided to revisit it also.
Another statement deserves to be put in red (but I am not proficient enough in HTML to do it)
"Kerry said he wanted to almost eliminate CIA activity"
And this is the guy who wants to be president during these critical times?!
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posted on
02/11/2004 7:31:03 AM PST
by
FairOpinion
(If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
To: dead
How about if you shorten it?
"Id like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the UN. - Kerry
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posted on
02/11/2004 7:33:42 AM PST
by
FairOpinion
(If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
To: dead
How about this tagline, then?
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posted on
02/11/2004 7:34:53 AM PST
by
dirtboy
(John Kerry - talking out both ends of the horse since 1970...)
To: Elkiejg
I didn't watch this a.m. -- what the heck did he mean? And which Ford?Rep. Harold Ford D-TN. He was on F&F basically shooting his mouth off about how we should "just move on" regarding Kerry's antiwar antics. If we do that, he says, the 'rats won't make ans issue of GWB's National Guard service. His tone and wording were absolutely nasty.
If he thinks conservatives actually believe that the 'rats won't continue to beat this dead horse regardless of any "agreement", he's an absolute idiot.
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posted on
02/11/2004 7:37:35 AM PST
by
AngryJawa
(It Is Not One World...)
To: Gritty; ClearCase_guy
He NEVER had a patriotic thought. While he was in Vietnam he compared the US help to S. Vietnam to German occupation of France!
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Here is a very long, but very insightful article:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1057936/posts Tour of Duty: John Kerry in Vietnam (very long)
The Atlantic Monthly ^ | December 2003 | Douglas Brinkley
Senator John F. Kerry often cites his service in Vietnam as a formative element of his character. A new account of his time therebased on interviews with those who knew him well, and on his never-before-published letters home and his voluminous "war notes"offers the first intimate look at a traumatic and life-altering experience.
"He had been considering Germany's occupation of France during World War II, he added, when "a thought came to me that I didn't likeI felt more like the German than the doughboy who came over to make the world safe for democracy and who rightfully had a star in his eye."
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posted on
02/11/2004 7:38:21 AM PST
by
FairOpinion
(If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
To: nwrep
Im an internationalist, Kerry told The Crimson in 1970. I think he meant to say, "Je suis Francais."
To: AngryJawa
Thanks for the info. Hey Ford......put a sock in it. You all started this - we'll finish it!!
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posted on
02/11/2004 7:41:13 AM PST
by
Elkiejg
(Clintons and Democrats have ruined America)
To: dead
Dead -can you show me how to add a tag-line? Thanks
To: NYC Republican
Click on
Post Reply and type in the field marked
Tagline.
(That was the easiest job I had all day.)
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posted on
02/11/2004 7:54:12 AM PST
by
dead
(I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
To: nwrep; amordei
And here is the link to the actual full interview from the Harvard Crimson from 2/18/1970, courtesy of FReeper amordei.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1075941/posts John Kerry: A Navy Dove Runs for Congress [Original Interiew]
Harvard Crimson ^ | 2/18/1970 | Crimosn Staff Writer
Posted on 02/11/2004 7:07:14 AM PST by amordei
Excerpt:
"When he approached his draft board for permission to study for a year in Paris, the draft board refused and Kerry decided to enlist in the Navy. The Navy assigned him to the USS Gridley which between December 1966 and July 1968 saw four months of action off the Vietnam coast. In August through November, 1968, Kerry was trained to be the skipper of a patrol boat for Vietnamese rivers. For the next five months, until April of 1969, Kerry was the commanding Lieutenant of a patrol boat in the Mekong Delta.
He was wounded slightly on three different occasions and received a Silver Star for bravery. His patrol boat took part in Operation Sealords, mostly scouting out Viet Cong villages and transporting South Vietnamese marines to various destinations up and down narrow rivers covered with heavy foliage on either side.
One time Kerry was ordered to destroy a Viet Cong village but disobeyed orders and suggested that the Navy Command simply send in a Psychological Warfare team to be friend the villagers with food, hospital supplies, and better educational facilities. "
"On other issues, Kerry wants "to almost eliminate CIA activity. The CIA is fighting its own war in Laos and nobody seems to care." He also favors a negative income tax and keeping unemployment at a very low level, "even if it means selective economic controls."
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P.S. Don't you get court martialed for disobeying orders from your superiors in the military?
"One time Kerry was ordered to destroy a Viet Cong village but disobeyed orders and suggested that the Navy Command simply send in a Psychological Warfare team to be friend the villagers with food, hospital supplies, and better educational facilities."
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posted on
02/11/2004 7:56:33 AM PST
by
FairOpinion
(If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
To: nwrep
Most of us have done something in our youth that we regret and that we hope never shows up on the cover of a tabloid.
Few of us, however, can match Kut and Run Kerry's record of doing things calculated to appear noble, only to later disown them as tragic and misguided errors.
Take, for example, Kerry's military service. There is absolutely nothing in Kerry's history that suggests he ever thought of military service as anything but a resume enhancer. Anyone who's initials are JFK and who paled around with the real JFK could not help but notice that the legend of PT109 helped Kennedy's political career.
So we may assume that the man who copied Kennedy's initials was not above copying his military career, right down to the choice of assignments -- Small U.S. Navy boat -- and the choice of duty assignments: notch up a medal or two for heroism, save a comrade under fire, collect just the right number of "wounds" to earn a transfer out of combat. Kut and Run.
All of this would seem like fairly sensible behavior for most people. Service was an obligation. To have fulfilled it honorably is enough. But not for Kerry. He returned to an America that was quite different from Kennedy's. Vietnam combat experience, particularly if it included chasing down and killing an effectively unarmed enemy soldier, was not a resume enhancer.
So how to resolve this dilemma? Fortunately for Kerry there was an out, a twelve step plan for recovering veterans, the antiwar movement. At this point in Kerry's political life, a miracle occurs. LBJ decides not to run for reelection, and the Republicans take charge of the war.
Look at this miracle from Kerry's point of view. He is the reincarnation of JFK. He has all the family connections, he is a genuine war hero, but his service is tainted. The war is political poison. But now the real enemy is in power and the war that was conceived by Kennedy and escalated by Johnson is being run by Nixon. This is the perfect time to take to the streets with Jane Fonda.
All this propels Kerry into congress. The perfect timing that gives Kerry the right to claim both sides of the street. And now, thirty some years later, he has another dilemma. The country's mood has shifted again, and he has to revert to being a war hero.
This is risky, because he has spoken of the war as a criminal activity. He has avoided all discussion of the events leading to his combat medals. He has avoided discussion of his Purple Hearts, and the Band-Aid wounds that earned them.
The dilemma is this: which is the Smeagol Kerry and which is the Gollum Kerry? Is the good guy the one who served honorably in the war, or the one who blew the whistle on war crimes, including possibly, his own?
Few of us can picture ourselves in this situation. All the things we did in our youth that were calculated for political gain, now rattle about like tin drums, symbols of an empty man, a Band-Aid soldier, who never did anything or took a stand on any issue without first putting his Purple Heart hangnailed finger to the wind. But this is in fact, the real man, a hollow protuberance of the left wing anti-American Left. His only goal is to obtain power. He will do anything or say anything that furthers this aim. And right now, Smeagol and Gollum are on stage together, for all to see.
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posted on
02/11/2004 7:56:35 AM PST
by
js1138
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