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Dark Days Doomed Dinosaurs, Say Purdue Scientists
Purdue University ^ | 2004-06-24 | news release issued by Purdue University

Posted on 07/07/2004 1:44:10 PM PDT by vannrox

Dark Days Doomed Dinosaurs, Say Purdue Scientists

WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. ? Though the catastrophe that destroyed the dinosaurs' world may have begun with blazing fire, it probably ended with icy darkness, according to a Purdue University research group.



By analyzing fossil records, a team of scientists including Purdue's Matthew Huber has found evidence that the Earth underwent a sudden cooling 65 million years ago that may have taken millennia to abate completely. The fossil rock samples, taken from a well-known archaeological site in Tunisia, show that tiny, cold-loving ocean organisms called dinoflagellates and benthic formanifera appeared suddenly in an ancient sea that had previously been very warm. While some scientists have long theorized that a meteorite's fiery collision with Earth was in some way responsible for the mass extinction of many dinosaur species, the discovery provides the first physical evidence of the global cooling that likely followed the impact.

"This is the first time anyone has found a fossil record indicating the Earth cooled significantly at that time," said Huber, an assistant professor of earth and atmospheric sciences in Purdue's School of Science. "It is likely that the object that struck the Earth hurled huge quantities of sulfate aerosols high into the atmosphere, which darkened and cooled the planet's surface for several years afterward.

"This discovery, which certainly has relevance to theories about dinosaur extinction, is also significant because it confirms our computer models of the Earth's climate ? they predict that the climate would respond in this way under the circumstances. That's encouraging for those of us who are trying to understand what our climate is doing now."

The research, which Huber conducted with first author Simone Galeotti of the University of Urbino, Italy, and Henk Brinkhuis of the University of Utrecht, the Netherlands, appears in the current (June 2004) issue of the scientific journal Geology.

Though dispute continues over what caused the dinosaurs' extinction, many scientists are convinced that a meteorite several miles wide struck the Earth at Chicxulub (pronounced "CHIX-a-lube") off Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula, causing a global catastrophe that wiped out nearly all large land animals. The details of this catastrophe are still poorly understood, though the heat from the explosion likely caused a worldwide atmospheric firestorm that within hours killed many large land animals ? most famously, the dinosaurs (for recent evidence supporting this theory, see related Web site).

The evidence Huber's team has uncovered provides a complimentary story: After the initial firestorm abated, the particles hurled into the atmosphere from the impact cooled the Earth's surface by filtering out much of the sunlight.

"Whatever dinosaurs survived the initial cataclysm, whether by burrowing underground or hiding in the water, would have emerged to find their world rapidly growing cold and dark," Huber said. "Without warmth or sunlight, nourishment got scarce in a hurry."

The team found evidence of the cooling in rocks found at El Kef in Tunisia, a site that shows the boundary in time between the Cretaceous and Tertiary periods 65 million years ago. This so-called "K-T boundary" is well-known as the time of the mass extinction that wiped out most dinosaurs. In the El Kef rocks, which during the Cretaceous were submerged beneath a warm-water ocean, Huber's colleagues found fossilized dinoflagellates that ordinarily appeared only in colder regions.

"The fossils indicate that something suddenly made the water cold enough to support these tiny critters," Huber said. "We theorize that the meteor strike produced huge quantities of sulfate particles, such as are often blown high into the atmosphere during a volcanic eruption, and these particles shielded the Earth's surface from sunlight. The decrease in solar energy ultimately caused a long cold spell, called an 'impact winter,' that persisted for years."

A reasonable theory, Huber said, is that the oceans cooled because they lost most of their heat to the chilly atmosphere above, which was no longer being heated by the sun. Had this cooling effect continued long enough, the surface of the oceans might have frozen solid, turning Earth into a giant snowball.

"The oceans evidently retained enough residual heat to remain liquid while the aerosols slowly left the atmosphere," he said. "Our climate models indicate that a snowball Earth would develop after an eight-year-long impact winter, but as the oceans did not freeze completely at the K-T boundary, the winter probably lasted five years or less."

Huber said that while life on the planet's surface was probably back on the road to recovery 30 years or so following the impact, the fossil records show the cold-loving dinoflagellates were present at El Kef for as long as 2,000 years afterward.

"It took much longer for the oceans to get back to normal," Huber said. "Prolonged feedback effects may have kept the ocean depths cold for many centuries."

The research results are good news for scientists, Huber said, because they bolster existing theories about the behavior of Earth's climate.

"This evidence is encouraging because it suggests that our computer models are correct in predicting the climate's response to a major perturbation," he said. "Our computer simulations indicate that if you turned off the sun today, this sort of winter would engulf the planet. Finding data about an impact winter 65 million years ago is encouraging, because it means that historical evidence lines up with our theory and models of climate."

These models need to be as accurate as possible, he added, if we are to comprehend the effects of aerosol particles on global warming.

"The results point to the critical role of the potential cooling effects of aerosols, which is very important for predicting the effects of humans on climate," he said. "Although human influences on aerosols are much more subtle than those thought to have resulted from the K-T boundary event, coal-fired power plants and biomass burning are also important aerosol sources. A better representation of aerosols' effects is crucial for understanding future climate changes as well as those in the deep past."

Huber is affiliated with the Purdue Climate Change Research Center, which promotes and organizes research and education on global climate change and studies its impacts on agriculture, natural ecosystems and society.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: ancient; archaeology; benthicformanifera; catastrophism; crevolist; dark; dinoflagellates; dinosaur; dinosaurs; discovery; doom; end; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; impact; levy; light; ocean; old; paleontology; past; physics; science; shoemaker
Interesting. Also interesting are the following related links:

Purdue Study Finds Prehistoric Couch Potato

Dinosaurs Grew Rapidly, Say Florida State University Researchers

Are pterodactyls still alive? Eyewitnesses of pterosaurs


1 posted on 07/07/2004 1:44:12 PM PDT by vannrox
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To: Junior; *crevo_list

Just an archival ping.


2 posted on 07/07/2004 1:49:03 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: vannrox; PatrickHenry
By analyzing fossil records, a team of scientists including Purdue's Matthew Huber has found evidence that the Earth underwent a sudden cooling 65 million years ago that may have taken millennia to abate completely.

Ah, I see somebody left the door open one December evening 65,000,000 years ago, and that was that.

3 posted on 07/07/2004 1:50:42 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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To: PatrickHenry

Bush's fault !!!!


4 posted on 07/07/2004 1:56:52 PM PDT by Forrestfire (Its what you learn AFTER you know everything, that counts. John Wooden)
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To: vannrox

This just in!


5 posted on 07/07/2004 2:01:32 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: vannrox
Dark Days Doomed Dinosaurs!

Well of COURSE!!!


Purdue is in Indiana, and...

Indiana DOESN'T observe Daylight Savings Time, and....

The prof's WANT an EXTRA hour over Daylight:

ERGO - this is a PLOT to make Hoosier legislatures feel BAD for making dino's go extinct; therefore PASSING a DST bill in Indianapolis during this session!


(It's REALLY very simple to connect the dots!)


Uh... I think I forgot to...

Uh.. do something....

6 posted on 07/07/2004 2:02:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: vannrox
Dark Days Doomed Dinosaurs!

Well of COURSE!!!


Purdue is in Indiana, and...

Indiana DOESN'T observe Daylight Savings Time, and....

The prof's WANT an EXTRA hour OF Daylight:

ERGO - this is a PLOT to make Hoosier legislatures feel BAD for making dino's go extinct; therefore PASSING a DST bill in Indianapolis during this session!


(It's REALLY very simple to connect the dots!)


Uh... I think I forgot to...

Uh.. do something....

7 posted on 07/07/2004 2:03:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: vannrox

"Our computer simulations indicate that if you turned off the sun today, this sort of winter would engulf the planet.

Well no sh*t Sherlock.
Just another reason to get our asses in a position to leave this rock.
If mankind can be wiped out by something like this it's time to at least have the ability to spread seeds across the universe.


8 posted on 07/07/2004 2:14:40 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: vannrox
Well it was already posted here awhile ago. I'm guessing the scientist who push the BS asteroid hypothesis are taking a page out of the creationist handbook and just repeating the same thing over and over again hoping it will eventually stick

It's garbage

1st - In regards to the so called Asteroid who cares what happened after the K-T event since there is increasing evidence that the Chicxulub crater predates the end-Cretaceous mass extinction by about 300,000 years. (More links here and here)

2nd, Dinoflagellates. Brinkhuis and Zachariasse (1988)record no accelerated rates of extinction across the K-T boundary in Tunisia.

So let me get this straight, The Sky was darkened which allowed the benthic foraminifera to move into a new area, Yet in that area Dinoflagellates who depend on sunlight and would be devastated in 6 months without it survived with no ill effects in the same area.

3rd, This is just one small area where there could be many reasons for a localized cooling effect. By focusing on one tiny area and ignoring the rest of world the scientist are being disingenuous at best.

In the rest of the world, Micro fossils show a different story, For example

a)   Diatoms. The K-T event did not much affect the diatoms. Harwood (1988), based on studies from Seymour Island, eastern Antarctic Peninsula, the first to record siliceous microfossil assemblages across a K-T boundary sequence, notes that diatom survivorship across the K-T boundary was above 90 percent. Resting spores increase from 7 percent below to 35 percent across the K-T boundary.

b)  Dinoflagellates. Dinoflagellates in other places around the globe also were little affected by the K-T event (Bujak and Williams, 1979). Hultberg (1986) in Scandinavia records no accelerated rates of extinction across the K-T boundary . Danish dinoflagellates responded more by appearance of new species than by extinctions (Hansen, 1977), as did Seymour Island assemblages (Askin, 1988).

c) Yes other plankton did suffer massive extinctions but it wasn't because of the Asteroid or K-T event.

Marine calcareous microplankton, the coccolithophorids and planktonic foraminifera, were hit hardest of all by the K-T event. Thierstein (1981) proposes that the coccolithophorids extinctions were the most severe plankton extinction event in geologic history; via a "deconvolution" process, Thierstein (1981, 1982) reduced a Cretaceous-Tertiary "transition," in which Cretaceous assemblages were replaced by "new" Tertiary taxa, to an instantaneous catastrophe. Perch-Nielsen et al. (1982) note that the "catastrophic event"at the K-T boundary did not result in geologically instant extinction of the calcareous nannoplankton, and that most Cretaceous species survived the event. At DSDP Site 524, a sample above the K-T boundary contains 90 percent Cretaceous species. Isotopic analysis indicated that the Cretaceous species were not reworked specimens, but represented survivors of the K-T event that continued to reproduce in the earliest Tertiary oceans. The relict species became extinct some tens of thousands of years after K-T boundary time, probably via environmental stresses.

Finally, Microfossils were actually found in the Chicxulub crater itself!!! and even though they are essentially at "Ground Zero" they show no ill effects. So how could an Asteroid cause negative effects on life on the other side of the globe but not where it hit?

9 posted on 07/07/2004 2:51:24 PM PDT by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: vannrox
I knew the guy would get a shot in on global warming, and sure enough-last sentence. but he lost me.
Aerosols then caused cooling. Aerosols now cause warming? Connect that one for me Norton.
10 posted on 07/07/2004 3:11:18 PM PDT by beebuster2000 (the only thing quagmired is the lib mind)
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To: vannrox

...Interesting post, thanks...


11 posted on 07/07/2004 4:08:46 PM PDT by gargoyle (...Let them talk, I'll loan them a soapbox, and a shovel to dig their own grave...)
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To: blam

ping


12 posted on 07/07/2004 4:11:24 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: vannrox
Dark Days Doomed Dinosaurs, Say Purdue Scientists

Looks like the Season Affective Depression (SAD) got 'em.
(end jocularity mode)
13 posted on 07/07/2004 4:15:15 PM PDT by VOA
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To: 75thOVI; AFPhys; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; Avoiding_Sulla; BenLurkin; Berosus; Brujo; ...
From two and a half years ago.
 
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14 posted on 03/24/2007 8:15:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Saturday, March 24, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: qam1; vannrox; All

"Microfossils were actually found in the crater itself."

After a period of time wouldn't microfossils have drifted in from elsewhere and settled in the crater? All kinds of things are found in the crater. The question is how long after the crash did they get there?

Do you have any information on the Shiva Crater by India, which was a lot larger than Yucatan and about the same age. If it in fact is verified could it explain some of the timing anomolies regarding timing of extinctions of various organisms large and small?


15 posted on 03/26/2007 10:28:28 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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16 posted on 01/25/2014 8:06:46 AM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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