Posted on 08/29/2004 2:55:26 PM PDT by Afronaut
If there are any deluded souls out there who still believe George W. Bush is a conservative, I invite them to examine the 2004 Republican Party platform on the issue of amnesty for illegal immigrants.
Bush is for it. That makes him a liberal. Worse, he proclaims that the amnesty is not an amnesty. So he is not only a liberal, but a liar as well.
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CFR has actually opened the political debate exponentially to anyone with a subversive message and millions of dollars to buy mass media resource.
It has actually been an unplanned but hugely empowering force, albeit in a deleterious way to the integrity of our electoral process.
So, as usual, you're completely consumed by the notion that "free speech" only entails the provision of a platform and universal respect for the brilliance your particular juvenile delinquent-level intrigues.
You and the forces of ick sell a product nobody wants to buy, so it has to be Bush and First Amendment corruption.
Not voting at all is not the answer. We must defeat the most liberal candidate ever. John F'n Kerry is a loser. We cannot have a loser in the office of President.
Remember Mr. Jimmy Carter, the biggest wimpiest president we ever had. Double digit inflation, and his belt tightening speech? What a big time imbecile.
Then he reinvented himself as a humanitarian. Wow, I am not impressed.
When did I say Bush is God?
You are the hysterical one...but I am not the one laughing at you.
So Bush is a bit left of the right...so what? internal dissent this close to an important election is NOT a good thing. That is like 2 players on the same baseball team getting into a fight during the pre game warmups.
It's ok though. Nuts like you that want everything your way will end up tearing the Republicans apart. Fine with me. I will remain a conservative and just laugh at you all as you scream and yell about everything when you want to happen, but the party will have then passed you by like a freight train.
Actually, CFR was supposed to stop groups from running ads within certain periods of time of elections. The rationale was that politicians would be beholden to groups that spoke out on behalf of them, or against their opponents. They essentially said "you cannot organize and run ads for us, or against our opponents, because it will corrupt us, therefore, we need to limit your right to free speech, because we are so corruptable."
There is a reason why Bush (and Kerry) is suing to shut these groups up. They are trying to silence them, through legal action.
Also, I'm certain you would have been as enthusiastic a proponent of CFR if it had of been passed and signed by Democrats instead of Republicans.
Yes, of course I'm a nut because I oppose CFR, Social Security for aliens, new pill entitlements, new federal aducation spending, foreigners observing our elections, ad nauseum....
How dare I! I better get back in lockstep and never ever criticize the policies of a Republican again, because, they can do no wrong!
Jim, since Keyes is off limits, how about doing something about posts that call GW a liberal and a liar? With Republicans like this, who needs Democrats?
So why dont you vote for Nader then?
As for the foreigners monitoring our elections...guess what? That has been going on for almost 16 frikin years. Get used to it becuase we signed an agreement....
Yep...you are hysterical....one of those that gives the left a lot of ammo....
be critical of the President after the "important" election. His name isnt John Kerry and he isnt going to change mid stream. People like you build it up as the election to end all elections. If that isnt so, just tell me and I will take my vote and go home....
Nader is more left wing than Kerry or Bush. Why makes you think I'm a leftist?
Your logic is incredible...I'm against all the left wing policies Bush has enacted, therefore, I'm going to vote for the most left wing of candidates. Think about how ridiculous that is.
And, the foreign observers to our elections has NOT been going on for 16 years. We signed an agreement that allowed it upon request, but it took Bush to actually request it.
I can exercise my right to speak out before or after an election. I'm not going to shut up about the odious left wing policies Bush has enacted and keeps on proposing just because he's running for office.
We've always had speech limitations around our electoral processes.
I didn't like CFR, but I didn't go apeshit when Bush signed it. It was a politically popular fait accompli that the ghoulish McCain exploited for personal "shake the Ghost of Keating" redemption after the media contrived mania of the Enron "scandal".
Bush didn't even hold a signing ceremony to given the McCain/Shayes RINO egomaniacs a single showcase. Get real Guillermo, Bush wasn't pushing this thing, he accepted a 60% legislative mandate that would have created counter-productive political ramifications to his congressional allies if he'd have vetoed the measure.
That's the way stuff gets done in D.C., and GREAT GOOGOOLY MOOOGOOLY ... not all the stuff is savory.
The big kids in our effective, productive Conservative political club GET IT. We're on a "beat Kerry" mission right now, and you "bet Bush" hominids need to start getting smacked around this forum. There's too much at stake for the losers and operatives to own the negative noise and poison the proactive Conservative FR energy that can be a force multiplying agent of influence toward achieving our collective interests.
Exactly.
The President needs Congress to pass this proposal. Congress needs US to get elected. The way I view this, The President is powerless to effect any change toward this recommended policy so long as we scare our Senators into the realization if they pass it, they are gone.
The way to fight this isn't through the President, but through Congress. About every policy we have disliked signed into law could have been prevented at a congressional level, we need to stop these measures before they can even reach the W.H.
BTW, my votes solidly in G.W.'s corner this year. I'm not interested in fighting these battles until after the election, it plays right into the Liberals hands. It isn't a coincidence that articles are appearing on the eve of the RNC convention about "fractures" from within. They want to destabilize support for this President that is far more vast and deep than Kerry's. I have no intention of aiding the Libs in defeating this President by helping to create a divide. The stakes in this election transcend even disagreement over border control which, imo, presents a greater threat to American cultural sovereignty than physical safety. The reality is that even with high walls we could never be fully secure in a world as technologically advanced as ours. The greater danger, again imo, is that the socialism of other world governments is brought across the border unchecked.
good...do whatever...drive people away by saying that Bush is not of the right wing....go ahead...see if I care....I dont give a shi'ite....
Guess what though? The foreign observers were there in 2000...although I am not so sure about 1996....and we monitor their elections so turnabout is fair frikin play.
Ok so you wont vote for any of the "leftist" candidates....by your logic, that includes Bush...I am sure that Kerry appreciates that you wont be voting for Bush about right now....
Of course, it's not his fault, he just signed it. Vetoing it would have been highly offensive, that's why he didn't do it.
I guess the buck doesn't stop with the President, as long as he's a Republican.
Yup.
We have a WAR TO WIN. bush will win it, Kerry will flipflop in it.It would take a lot more than Hispandering to stop me from supporting President Bush.
he is truly Right for our time.
Yeah well what else is knew. Bush has got his faults but I will still vote for him, just like Keyes in Illinois.
I think its about the Dems and Repubs. They both are taking us to hell but the Repubs will get us there slower. Gives us time to try and turn the ship around. Sooo GO w.
Remember our new motto: BETTER MEXICAN THAN MUSLIM
12 MILLION OF 'EM CAN'T BE WRONG
There's a million crazy things here." The craziest is the failure of the Bush administration to secure the borders almost three years into the so-called War on Terror.
Frankly, I don't think theres any issue in this election cycle that trumps the WoT. The objective in the upcoming election is to reelect the Bush-Cheney ticket and defeat the pacifist forces of the Democratic Party candidates, John Kerry and John Edwards.
Yeah sure man....
you are hysterical....
This is why I am glad Conservatives do think for themselves...most people on this board are seeing your hysterical posts in favor of division in this time of needed togetherness as a sign of what this party and train of thought does not need.
and yes, generally vetoing a bill that has almost 62% of the Congress voting for it will 1) get noticed by the liberal press that is waiting to pounce on you and 2) will alienate a slightly favorable Congress against you.
The two party cabal has left us as usual with only two choices...
One of them is absolutlely abysmal....
Conservatives have a better chance at conservative politicans than they do at left wingers
and the wing controlling the dems is Waaaay out there...
So elect GW and as many Conservatives in the legislature and in state govt as you can...then put the pressure on GW after the election....
Cease fire until after GW is in...then full speed ahead....with pressuring him to be a real conservative...
imo
Thanks!
yes, I'm hysterical because I oppose all the leftist proposals Bush has enacted...
And, how I long for the day when we get a President who doesn't act based on what the Liberal Media might SAY, or on how the opposition will react!
A President who acts in one way or the other because of what the Media will say is not a leader.
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