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Drudge - Judge orders government to find, release all Bush military records...
Drudge Report ^ | 9/16/04 | MATT KELLEY

Posted on 09/16/2004 1:52:12 PM PDT by Spackidagoosh

Edited on 09/16/2004 2:17:33 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: maryz

ok first panic set it. Now I think it is a good thing because Bush signed his 180 and do you see that it is right above Kerry is at odds with Navy. Bush's campaign people are the best and they will handle this I'm sure. And he is a federal judge and I think he can order the Pentagon to produce anything because AP filed lawsuit. But where is Judicial Watch. I think they did too against Kerry but he didn't sign his 180


142 posted on 09/16/2004 2:13:45 PM PDT by queenkathy
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To: gilliam

THE JUDGE JUST IGNORED THAT. He is saying that any paperwork witherge Pres. Bush's name on it must be released, and if that includes going into other personnel files or releasing group orders and other stuff then do it. This is a clear over stepping of authority.

Its yet another example of the clear contempt for the military the dims have.


143 posted on 09/16/2004 2:13:53 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: dalebert

http://www.courttv.com/archive/legaldocs/misc/baer.html

Yep he's the druggie guy


144 posted on 09/16/2004 2:13:53 PM PDT by ohiobluesuiter (We've got better hair! -John Kerry)
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To: OpusatFR

....Who brought the action that the judge ruled on?.....


The AP story says the AP brought the suit.


145 posted on 09/16/2004 2:14:29 PM PDT by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: earwaves

The issue is not Laura Bush. The issue is what has been proven by everyone.


146 posted on 09/16/2004 2:14:31 PM PDT by Spackidagoosh
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To: dalebert

Just remember, Kerry can't SIGN a 180, he can only FLIP FLOP 180. :) (Degrees, that is.)


147 posted on 09/16/2004 2:14:39 PM PDT by sturmde
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To: maryz
"It wouldn't have gone to court unless the request to the NG or the Pentagon or whatever had been refused."

Or if some things came through heavily redacted, or if they believed the Pentagon were holding back some documents. I would assume they would need at least some evidence to support this claim for the judge to act on it. Judges may do silly things sometimes, but rarely do they do something that's outright stupid or without a reasonable amount of support. Why? No judge likes to be overturned.
148 posted on 09/16/2004 2:14:55 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Conservatism begins at home. Security begins at the border. Please, someone, secure our borders.)
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To: BoBToMatoE

Okay, he was Yale graduate and nominated/appointed by another Yale graduate, the Clintoon.

Baer, Harold Jr.
Born 1933 in New York, NY

Federal Judicial Service:
U. S. District Court, Southern District of New York
Nominated by William J. Clinton on April 26, 1994, to a seat vacated by Robert W. Sweet; Confirmed by the Senate on August 9, 1994, and received commission on August 10, 1994.


149 posted on 09/16/2004 2:15:00 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop lying to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: mystery-ak

agreed, what lawsuit is this in reference too?


150 posted on 09/16/2004 2:15:16 PM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: Soul Seeker

If it is a witchhunt then it opens a whole 'nother realm of just who has standing to pursue an action to prevent this.

Although, I have to tell you my gut instinct is that there are wheels within wheels here and I think the dems have fallen into a trap. A huge one because of Kerry's nonrelease and because aces are that the records corroborate Bush.

Just a gut feeling.


151 posted on 09/16/2004 2:15:28 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Let me repeat this: the web means never having to swallow leftist garbage again. Got it?)
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To: Spackidagoosh

This may be what Scott McClelland was alluding to yesterday about potentially finding more documents.


152 posted on 09/16/2004 2:15:32 PM PDT by IamConservative (A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
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To: Spackidagoosh

Should we flood drudge with this information? We need to get this information out ASAP. Maybe it can make a difference in the news cycle.


153 posted on 09/16/2004 2:15:34 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: All
Navy Contradicts Kerry on Release of Military Records
154 posted on 09/16/2004 2:15:41 PM PDT by NewMediaFan
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To: aft_lizard

We've got a Class A New York judicial moonbat, on the loose:

Another Baer Mauling in NYC
Infamous District Court Judge Harold Baer has come up with another stinker of a decision:

"NEW YORK (Reuters) - In a victory for a Ku Klux Klan group, a federal judge on Tuesday ruled that a New York state law violates the U.S. Constitution by barring public demonstrators from wearing masks.

In his decision, U.S. District Judge Harold Baer held that the law violates the free speech rights of the Butler, Indiana-based Church of the American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. If the judge's decision is upheld, members of the group would be able to hide their identities by wearing hoods and masks at future New York rallies.

The city said it would appeal."

You may recall that in March 1996, Judge Howard Baer, Jr., a Manhattan U.S. District Court jurist and Clinton appointee, set off a storm of criticism when he ruled that 80 pounds of cocaine and heroin found by police in a car could not be used as evidence.

The incident in Washington Heights (a lower middle class, largely Hispanic neighborhood in Northern Manhattan) involved two New York City police officers who observed a woman slowly drive down a street at 5 a.m., double park her car and open her trunk. Four men then emerged from between parked cars and placed two large duffel bags in the trunk. When the men spotted the police officers they ran away from the car and the woman drove off. After following the out-of-state rental car for several blocks, the officers stopped the car, searched the trunk, found the drugs and arrested the woman.

In declaring the drugs inadmissible, Judge Baer said there was no probable cause to search the car because it is not unusual for people to be leery of police in an inner-city neighborhood like Washington Heights.

After the public outcry about this ruling, including criticism from President Clinton and calls for his impeachment by Senator Dole, Baer reversed his decision and removed himself from the case.

In the current case, Judge Baer ruled that an 1840s NY State statute that prohibits two or more persons from "congregating" in public while wearing masks to obscure their identities was unconstitutional. To my way of thinking, preventing anonymous mobs from congregating in our cities is hardly an infringement of political speech. The law did nothing to restrict people's rights of assembly or free expression: it merely required that they show their faces while doing so.


155 posted on 09/16/2004 2:15:53 PM PDT by Darnright
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To: Spackidagoosh

This is just another example of the left shooting themselves in the foot. They get wind that the Pentagon is going to finally release all of the files they have found (which was already called for by the POTUS) so they get a judge to rule a few days before so that they can make it appear they did something. Meanwhile all they will find is documentation that W completed his 50 required days in 73 and was discharged early. Same non-story we already know. They can talk AWOL all they want but you aren't AWOL if you have already been discharged.


156 posted on 09/16/2004 2:15:59 PM PDT by GallopingGhost
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To: dfwgator
"This could potentially be a good thing. It will end all the rumors once and for all."

It's fodder for spin and innuendo.
157 posted on 09/16/2004 2:16:14 PM PDT by doblin
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To: RWR8189

Thanks!

Baer, Harold Jr.
Born 1933 in New York, NY

Federal Judicial Service:
U. S. District Court, Southern District of New York
Nominated by William J. Clinton on April 26, 1994, to a seat vacated by Robert W. Sweet; Confirmed by the Senate on August 9, 1994, and received commission on August 10, 1994.


158 posted on 09/16/2004 2:16:28 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop lying to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: gilliam

No he cant thats the problem, They, the press is suing for other paperwork outside of Bush's personell file. THats an overreaching of authority.


159 posted on 09/16/2004 2:16:44 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: aft_lizard

EXACTLY!!

Everyone please understand this isn't about incriminating evidence being released about G.W., which I don't believe exists.

This Judge may have just ordered a WITCHHUNT into ALL service records of every past and present service member in an attempt to find incriminating information!!!

Does everyone understand how serious this is????


160 posted on 09/16/2004 2:16:44 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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