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| 9/16/04
| MATT KELLEY
Posted on 09/16/2004 1:52:12 PM PDT by Spackidagoosh
Edited on 09/16/2004 2:17:33 PM PDT by Admin Moderator.
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To: Kozak
If it were anyone but JW, I might grow some confidence.
To: Lancey Howard
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posted on
09/16/2004 3:08:20 PM PDT
by
drungus
To: Soul Seeker
The documents the judge ordered released may or may not exist. They are to be found in the personal records of OTHER service men and women. In effect, the judge is saying they should examine every single file on record from every single person that has ever served to look for any mention of George W. Bush.
If that's the case, then that's outrageous. How can this fool justify that?
Again, I don't see it hurting the President, but Baer's order defecates on all service men and womens' privacy rights.
263
posted on
09/16/2004 3:09:28 PM PDT
by
Freepdonia
(Victory is Ours!)
To: Atlanta
All the more reason that law abiding citizens, who want America to remain free, need to be armed.
To: Kozak
worldnet or fox needs to make a similar request regarding kerry
beyond that, I'm not sure why a judge has the authority to order such a thing...especially regarding medical records.
265
posted on
09/16/2004 3:11:08 PM PDT
by
xzins
(Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
To: Freepdonia
Which is the source of my outrage.
To: Spackidagoosh
Dear RAT judge:
STUFF IT
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posted on
09/16/2004 3:12:43 PM PDT
by
soycd
To: NJ_gent
He's not ordering the Commander-in-Chief to do anything. He's ordering a Presidential candidate to do something.He's not doing either.
He's ordering the Pentagon to produce the documents. Bush has already,long ago, instructed them to do the same.
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posted on
09/16/2004 3:13:52 PM PDT
by
cyncooper
(It's rattlesnake season. Have you seen a rattlesnake lately?)
To: Spackidagoosh
In other news, Judge Ima Demhack recently ordered the Republican National Committee to stop beating its wife, and demanded that President Bush hand over any evidence from which Dan Rather might possibly infer that he eats small Lithuanian children for breakfast.
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posted on
09/16/2004 3:15:07 PM PDT
by
Thrusher
(The timing of this post is suspicious.)
To: Spackidagoosh
To: cyncooper
this is total crap! time for insurrection and i am a mild mannered middle aged white woman!!!! but i promise to do my part. the problem is there are plenty of dems left over from the clinton administration in the government (hence the schizophrenic behavior sometimes of agencies) and I would bet in the pentagon as well who just may roll over and respond to this facist judge.
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posted on
09/16/2004 3:17:49 PM PDT
by
applpie
To: Freepdonia
I missing the "panicking' except from the tone of YOUR post.
Calm down
272
posted on
09/16/2004 3:22:13 PM PDT
by
cyncooper
(It's rattlesnake season. Have you seen a rattlesnake lately?)
To: drungus
woa, good find. carter appointee, it figures........
273
posted on
09/16/2004 3:24:16 PM PDT
by
tioga
To: cyncooper
I missing the "panicking' except from the tone of YOUR post. Calm down
Where have I been panicking?
274
posted on
09/16/2004 3:26:48 PM PDT
by
Freepdonia
(Victory is Ours!)
To: XJarhead
The Form 180 so many people are talking about only authorizes the release of the individual's own file. It has nothing to do with a general release of military records. The Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) deals with the release of information maintained by the government which is not protected by the Privacy Act. This judge is ruling on a FOIA request.
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posted on
09/16/2004 3:32:18 PM PDT
by
etcb
To: mystery-ak
The case against Judge Baer is very different from that of "the Romer 6." Analysis of his first controversial opinion reveals a fairly detailed interaction with the facts, evidence and precedents pertinent to the case.183 He was using the tools of his trade. He was not making up new constitutional "rights" or legislating from the bench. The problem with Baers first opinion was pointed out in his own words in his second opinion: A legal opinion stands for a proposition of law, a holding. Additional material which is included in most opinions but which does not relate directly to the holding is known as dicta. Although dicta may color the holding of an opinion, it by no means constitutes a legal or factual conclusion. On that score, unfortunately the hyperbole (dicta) in my initial decision not only obscured the true focus of my analysis, but regretfully may have demeaned the law-abiding men and women who make Washington Heights their home and the vast majority of the dedicated men and women in blue who patrol the streets of our great City.184 Baers comments, about demeaning the police, refer to statements in his first opinion implying that the police in question were part of a corrupt and incompetent force and that a specific officer who had testified was not to be believed.185 As a result, Baer originally suppressed 34 kilograms of cocaine and 2 kilograms of heroin and a confession to twenty drug-running trips.186 Even this does not rise to the level of constituting judicial tyranny in any of the senses encountered in the Romer opinion. On the other hand, Baers confession of analytical incompetence could have serious consequences if this opinion is not an anomaly. Impeachment was used to remove the incompetent Judge Pickering in 1803but only because he was thought insane. Thus, targeting Baer for impeachment is probably near the edge of legitimacy. If Congress is concerned that this is a judge who is demonstrating a pattern of analytical incompetence, it could certainly investigate him. There would be cause for concern if there were numerous instances in which any such incompetence were endangering the public as it did in the Bayless case. We have seen that scrutiny less than a congressional investigation has had a salutary effect. However, calling for Baers impeachment based on this one opinion alone appears to be illegitimate. From the Regent University Law review
Vol.10, 1998
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posted on
09/16/2004 3:38:35 PM PDT
by
marty60
To: dfwgator
You are right!!Pres. Bush will get 5% more votes for this travesty! Let's make that 60% Bush; 35% Scarie; and 5% for all others.
To: All; Mo1
HUGH HEWITT: IT'S FORM 180.
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posted on
09/16/2004 3:47:04 PM PDT
by
OXENinFLA
(Sec. 3, Amendment 14..................)
To: OXENinFLA
Now is the time for the Justice Department to step in and inform the judge that he must submit authority to do what the judge is ordering. If there is abuse of his authority, refer it to an investigation of this judge. What in the hell do we have a Justice Department for?
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posted on
09/16/2004 4:04:48 PM PDT
by
Logical me
(Oh, well!!!)
To: Spackidagoosh
Would some one PLEASE sue to get Kerry's military records released?!?!?!?!?! Rush, Hannity, Coulter, Savage... I don't care who.
280
posted on
09/16/2004 4:06:56 PM PDT
by
rintense
(Results matter.)
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