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Agent behind fake uranium documents worked for France (FRENCH TREACHERY UNMASKED)
The Sunday Telegraph ^
| September 19, 2004
| Bruce Johnston
Posted on 09/18/2004 5:24:14 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: doug from upland
We didn't rely on the fakes. Our intel wasn't even just in document form. See my posts above- the intel we and the UK were working from preceded the 'discovery' of Giacomo's materials.
Some of our intel did come from the Italian Sismi- but it was't the intel later provided through Giacomo through the French.
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posted on
09/18/2004 6:02:40 PM PDT
by
piasa
(Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
To: MadIvan
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posted on
09/18/2004 6:05:12 PM PDT
by
sonofatpatcher2
(Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
To: MadIvan
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posted on
09/18/2004 6:06:59 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(civilization is a veneereal disease)
To: MadIvan
The French are lying, sneaking, conniving polecats.
Along with Dan Rather & The Democrats. (from Dave Barry: Sounds like a good name for a rock band!)
ps: You haven't been to Florida lately, have you?
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posted on
09/18/2004 6:14:36 PM PDT
by
jrushing
(Democrats=National Socialist Workers Party)
To: Stonedog
Giancomo wasn't in Europe. He was working part time at a Kinko's in Texas. What scum. The French fake documents, the Democrats fake documents, the only difference is that the Dems have better technology. They use Microsoft 1972 and the French use a person. Of course, their deception lasted longer than two hours.
This has been all over the networks in the two weeks since you saw this in the Telegraph. Just like the oil for food scandal.
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posted on
09/18/2004 6:16:31 PM PDT
by
IrishCatholic
(No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
I'm confused, wasn't the British case based on info other than these forged memo's?
So was there really no deal between Saddam and Niger in buying low-grade uranium from them???
To: IrishCatholic
I'm a bit out of touch. I don't have a television at the moment, as I'm on assignment in Arizona on the Navajo reservation. The location I'm at doesn't even have local tv service, lol.
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posted on
09/18/2004 6:21:21 PM PDT
by
Stonedog
(Mr. Blather... tear down this STONEWALL!!)
To: MadIvan
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posted on
09/18/2004 6:27:17 PM PDT
by
Chode
(American Hedonist ©®)
To: piasa
No, we didn't rely on the fakes. But the MSM and the Democrats sure as hell did for their propaganda campaign. It was a scorched earth campaign and extremely effective. Just about everyone in the country believed it.
We've seen a lot of orchestrated propaganda campaigns the last couple of years among the media and the Democrats. Interesting that the French seem to be involved as well. You can bet they worked with the DNC in setting this up and breaking the story.
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posted on
09/18/2004 6:28:08 PM PDT
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: MadIvan
polecats?
You fixin to move to Texas Ivan? You're picking up on the lingo there pardner.
:-)
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posted on
09/18/2004 6:29:45 PM PDT
by
AFreeBird
(your mileage may vary)
To: IrishCatholic
Ouch! That must hurt. The French managed forgeries that were better than the Dems. How ever will they live this down?
If the Dems cannot even surpass the French, they have no business applying to lead this country against the terrorists.
To: AFreeBird
polecats?
Funny, I haven't heard that word since I was a kid. My Grandpa used to say "polecat, pussy(cat) with a fluid drive" when we'd pass a dead skunk in the middle of the road.
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posted on
09/18/2004 6:39:05 PM PDT
by
jrushing
(Democrats=National Socialist Workers Party)
To: piasa
Yes apparently there is a history of Niger supplying this type of uranium to various 'rogue states.'
Evidence of Niger uranium trade 'years before war': Embarrassment over fake documents obscured earlier intelligence that Iraq may have been trying to buy uranium...three European intelligence services were aware of possible illicit trade in uranium from Niger between 1999 and 2001. Human intelligence gathered in Italy and Africa more than three years before the Iraq war had shown Niger officials referring to possible illicit uranium deals with at least five countries, including Iraq.
This intelligence provided clues about plans by Libya and Iran to develop their undeclared nuclear programmes. Niger officials were also discussing sales to North Korea and China of uranium ore or the "yellow cake" refined from it: the raw materials that can be progressively enriched to make nuclear bombs.
The raw intelligence on the negotiations included indications that Libya was investing in Niger's uranium industry to prop it up at a time when demand had fallen, and that sales to Iraq were just a part of the clandestine export plan. These secret exports would allow countries with undeclared nuclear programmes to build up uranium stockpiles...
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posted on
09/18/2004 6:39:29 PM PDT
by
walford
(http://utopia-unmasked.us)
To: MadIvan
The witch and her Marxist friends were behind this.
To: walford; MadIvan; doug from upland
The joke of it all is that Iraq's trade mission to Niger was not a secret, so I don't know why Bush bothered to credit British intel for information that is essentially public.
In 1999 Iraq sent Ambassador Zahawie to Niger to hold conversations. Zahawie is famous for advocating the development of nuclear weapons by Arab states. Since Niger is not known for many exports aside from uranium, since Iraq has previously bought uranium from Niger, its not difficult to draw conclusions.
Wilson claimed at one point that Baghdad Bob also made a trip to Niger, and Nigerien officials also claimed that they had been contacted by Iraqi businessmen.
Wilson, and Niger, claimed though that neither Niger nor France would ever be involved in illicit sales of uranium.
But of course, since Libya has given up its nuclear program, we now know that they were buying their uranium from Niger, and hence, France.
Why would France be investigating uranium sales they themselves would be involved in? The idea that they would be plugging leaks makes sense. The fake documents were handed over to the US by France, and then exposed as fakes by a French member of the IAEA. This had the effect of discrediting a story that was not only true but public. And it very nearly brought down Bush at a time that he was preparing a war that France very much wished to derail.
It doesn't take a long memory to recall that France had maybe a hundred billion dollars on the line in Iraq's oil industry, and most of the high tech weaponry our guys came up against was French built and of recent vintage, some of it shipped immediately prior to the invasion.
France is not our friend.
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posted on
09/18/2004 6:47:57 PM PDT
by
marron
To: marron
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posted on
09/18/2004 7:00:27 PM PDT
by
doug from upland
(Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
To: marron
Why isn't Kofi criticizing this complicity/coverup in nuclear proliferation and is instead ragging on Bush for removing Saddam? Oh, yeah...
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posted on
09/18/2004 7:15:59 PM PDT
by
walford
(http://utopia-unmasked.us)
To: piasa
To: MEG33
The French tradition of intelligence services creating fake documents for political purposes dates back at least to the Dreyfus affair. As for truth, they couldn't care less.
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posted on
09/18/2004 9:22:54 PM PDT
by
JasonC
To: piasa
Grrr. I meant:
So, this appears to confirm that the intelligence Italy did provide earlier about Iraq and Niger was separate- as advertised - not related to these documents at all.
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posted on
09/18/2004 9:52:41 PM PDT
by
piasa
(Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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