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Burkett said he wanted to advise the Democrats on how to respond to the questions being raised about Kerry's own military record. To that end, he also was able to get former Sen. Max Cleland, a Kerry confidante, and ex-presidential candidate Howard Dean on the phone over the last 45 days.

How did he manage that?

And while Lockhart insists that the documents were never mentioned in their conversation, he conceded "it's possible" Mapes just happened to mention the memos when she asked him to give Burkett a call.

Yesterday, he explained it this way: Mapes asked Lockhart to speak to "a guy who is being helpful on this story," adding that she just happened to mention that "there are some records that might move the story forward" without telling him what they said.

Maybe CBS isn't the only one with a credibility problem.

1 posted on 09/22/2004 3:11:11 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Grampa Dave; Libloather; Mudboy Slim; onyx; Fracas
"The fact that CBS News would coordinate with the most senior levels of Sen. Kerry's campaign to attack the president is a stunning and deeply troubling revelation," said the White House. That's putting it mildly. Indeed, the more we learn about this whole sordid episode, the more disturbing it becomes. What else is CBS hiding?

If we could just start the CBS investigations from the lying Clintons 60 Minutes appearance, on down.

2 posted on 09/22/2004 3:13:37 AM PDT by Liz
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"an error that was made . . . in good faith."

Right........ and Clinton didn't give away nuclear secrets to China, and Michael Moore is not fat.

3 posted on 09/22/2004 3:16:25 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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...and the hunter has shall become the hunted. Shhwweeet!
5 posted on 09/22/2004 3:23:12 AM PDT by Shqipo (The gloves are on and the corners are empty.)
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and ex-presidential candidate Howard Dean on the phone over the last 45 days.

This is kerrite biggie number 3 to be put in contact with burkett by c-BS and RATher. Rathergate is bigger than Watergate.

6 posted on 09/22/2004 3:26:27 AM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: Liz; CyberCowboy777; Baynative; Spanaway Lori; Grani

Just ask John Carlson of 570KVI radio in Settle. He worked with her and had a story on air today about HOW SHE HAS DONE THIS BEFORE! (But I wouldn't expect the mass media to actually be able to root this source out for themselves...)


7 posted on 09/22/2004 3:27:07 AM PDT by Libertina (Thank God we have President Bush in the White House.)
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Poor ole Mary - only a few months removed from a career-defining highlight - the ALLEGED abuse of prisoners by American soldiers in Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison - and unearthed the photos that gave the story its visceral impact. How do we know that those pictures weren't STAGED? I thought they looked to artsy not to be staged.

We know the C-BS memos were fake. We know members of the Kerry campaign were involved with Bill Burkett.

We know John Kerry re-enacted battles with his 8 milimeter camera while he was in Vietnam.

We know that there ARE people in this world who for political gain or money would discredit themselves, their President, and their country.


8 posted on 09/22/2004 3:30:05 AM PDT by xtinct (Incite into Massachusetts Politics)
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I have a noticed a sea change in the last few days. The media is starting to act more objectively and responsibly. USA Today did a very detailed (which is not normal for USA Today) and devastating story on the chronology of this scandal yesterday.

The MSM is now running scared that they will be sucked into this mess. They know they have bloody hands as well helping the Democrats and they are all in overdrive trying to see who can be tougher on CBS.

It won't last though. The only way to clean this up would be for the Washington Post, LA Times, Newsweek, Time, CNN, NYT, etc would be for them to fire 50% of the hard core liberals on their staff and start fresh.

9 posted on 09/22/2004 3:33:08 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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I have a strong suspicion that whoever is behind the forgeries, is also the "unnamed sources" for most of the garbage in Kitty K's book.


13 posted on 09/22/2004 3:38:17 AM PDT by tkathy (There will be no world peace until all thuggocracies are gone from the earth.)
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To: Liz; headsonpikes; beyond the sea; E.G.C.; Military family member; Wolverine; TexasTransplant; ...
"CBS News tradition of investigate reporting without fear or favoritism."
It is time and past time for America to face up to the fact that the assumption that CBS, or anyone else for that matter, is wise and virtuous enough to " report without fear or favor" amounts to a "title of nobility" prohibited under the Constitution.
Why Broadcast Journalism is
Unnecessary and Illegitimate
You and I listen to people because they vindicate your trust, not because the government says that they are "broadcasting in the public interest as a public trustee." But it is all too plain that at any given time there are all too many Americans who can be gulled by Public Relations swindles such as Dan Rather's posturing.

CBS has Swift Boat Veterans for Truth lined up around the block waiting to give firsthand testimony about John Kerry's behavior in Vietnam, and about the effect of his subsequent behavior on the troops then still there after he left. But Dan Rather would rather climb a tree to tell a lie about George W. Bush than he would to stand on the ground and tell the truth about John F. Kerry. "Without fear or favor?" Sure, I believe that!


14 posted on 09/22/2004 3:40:51 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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The Swift Boat Vets new campaign ad is why JFKerry and CBS and all other media are still on a premeditated plot to disrupt an election.

JFKerry and CBS as well as the other media outlets are quite content to keep this "dirty trick" on the front page and first story on the NEWS.

JFKerry and his medial whores know darn well that even moderate democrats will not like the JFKerry going to Paris part of JFKerry war story.
22 posted on 09/22/2004 3:54:36 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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Dan doesn't seem to know anything, even yet. He still believes the memos are real.


25 posted on 09/22/2004 4:01:27 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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Part of what this story PROVES is that most of the networks and especially CBS do not know what concerns people. For example, paying for college when profs are not even in class-but their salary is up 30%. Paying for taxes on things we don't care about and wish the government would leave alone - HIPPA. These are the real problems of today not 35 years ago when the world was different.


30 posted on 09/22/2004 4:20:41 AM PDT by q_an_a
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Indeed, the more we learn about this whole sordid episode, the more disturbing it becomes.

What else is CBS hiding?

My question, what other CBS "NEWS" stories are false?

31 posted on 09/22/2004 4:26:20 AM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas (One man's conspiracy is another man's truth!)
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CBS, responsible and thorough, seeking only unimpeachable non-partisan sources, announces they are still checking their sources on the alleged rape of Juanita Broaderick.


37 posted on 09/22/2004 4:36:26 AM PDT by alrea (Help Wanted: New Jersey Director, Homeland Security. Must be willing performer, and good looking.)
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I have a strong suspicion that whoever is behind the forgeries, is also the "unnamed sources" for most of the garbage in Kitty K's book

Bill Burkett has told friends he was one of the sources for Michael Moore's latest movie. I would not be surprised if he was Kitty's source as well.

40 posted on 09/22/2004 4:52:19 AM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas (One man's conspiracy is another man's truth!)
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Mapes will be the fall-gal in this story. There is a story linked from Drudge right now that describes how Mapes hated Bush 41, how she was extremely liberal and vocal about her political views, how she got into journalism to "make a differece" and not just report news and how she thought that she had put so much into this story she wanted something to come from it.

She is toast. Given all that about Mapes, however, it is clear that CBS and Dan Rather are also guilty for letting this woman run rampant. Also, I have a feeling that Dan Rather shares many of Mape's characteristics described above.

It will not be sufficient to just fire Mapes and put all the blame on her.

And then, of course, we still have the Kerry connection.

43 posted on 09/22/2004 4:57:01 AM PDT by Pete
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CBS = 527


47 posted on 09/22/2004 5:11:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you shoot from the hip enough times, eventually you'll shoot yourself in the a$$......)
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which he now says he regrets — was "an error that was made . . . in good faith."

Yeah right
Doicuments were spotted as forgeries a couple of hours after they were published and CBS couldn't figure it out for themselves
53 posted on 09/22/2004 5:30:49 AM PDT by uncbob
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It goes without saying that Lockhart's a liar.......he was Clinton's mouthpiece, after all.


66 posted on 09/22/2004 7:21:56 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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Viacom owner of CBS: MTV Running Ad Saying Kids Will Be Drafted!!"

Viacom lie debunked here on Snopes.com








70 posted on 09/22/2004 8:45:08 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (What did Dan Rather know, and when did he know it?)
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