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60 years ago: Hitler's desperate last push, The Battle of the Bulge
AP Wire | December 12 2004 | Richard Pyle/AP

Posted on 12/12/2004 8:58:43 AM PST by knighthawk

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1 posted on 12/12/2004 8:58:44 AM PST by knighthawk
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2 posted on 12/12/2004 8:59:16 AM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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Might get flamed for this, but the Bulge wouldn't have happened if Bradley and Eisenhower hadn't ignored the German buildup. Or assuming they paid attention to it and the attack happened anyway, the supply problem wouldn't have existed if it hadn't been for J.C.H. Lee and his hotel takeovers.


3 posted on 12/12/2004 9:01:15 AM PST by Terpfen (Gore/Sharpton '08: it's Al-right!)
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No you're absolutely right. They got caught napping. My grandfather was serving in Patton's Third Army at the time.


4 posted on 12/12/2004 9:04:53 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: knighthawk

The anniversary of the start of the battle is this Thursday.


5 posted on 12/12/2004 9:06:32 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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He was lucky to have such a competent commander, then. Big Patton fan here.

Patton's G-2 warned him about the build-up, and they were nowhere near the Ardennes. It was that obvious... and everyone who was actually there got blindsided. Disappointing.


6 posted on 12/12/2004 9:06:54 AM PST by Terpfen (Gore/Sharpton '08: it's Al-right!)
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To: knighthawk

My Dad fought and was wounded, saving several men's lives, in that horrible battle. He was a Sgt in Yankee Division, Army Corps of Engineers. German sniper took him down after he'd carried 3 wounded men to safety. To this day, he doesn't want to talk about what he did.


8 posted on 12/12/2004 9:11:00 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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He always said it was a love/relationship with Patton. They hated the way he drove them but they also knew he was winning the war by doing it.

He told me many stories about their march north through the blizzard to relieve Bastogne.
9 posted on 12/12/2004 9:11:37 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

The American engineers played a big part in slowing the German advance.


10 posted on 12/12/2004 9:13:06 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: knighthawk
"on Jan. 8, even Hitler conceded failure. "

Yes, but when did the American media concede? Surely the imbeds were livid about the poor planning by the American Commanders. I'll bet the newspapers and the radio shows were filled with angry Senators and Congressman demanding Roosevelt's head for presiding over this needless tragedy.

11 posted on 12/12/2004 9:14:28 AM PST by trek
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The war , like every war was not run perfectly...The media was kinder then..and we prevailed as Hitler had shot us his last best shot and lost. I received a war bond for my birthday present then..


12 posted on 12/12/2004 9:14:32 AM PST by MEG33 (Merry Christmas!..,,God Bless All Who Serve Our Country)
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To: knighthawk
In war, it finally gets down to - you do what you have to do! We are not there yet, but if the Islamic Fundamentalist and THEIR SUPPORTERS push us that far - it will cost us, but their price to pay will be unbelievable!

As to the past, to the men of Bastogne and Gen McAuliffe, may their example forever be remembered!

13 posted on 12/12/2004 9:14:54 AM PST by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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I only shudder to think how today's media would have covered the battle. The New York Times would be demanding a cease fire with Hitler.


14 posted on 12/12/2004 9:16:18 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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You know what's sad? If Maureen Dowd was writing during the siege of Bastogne she would have taken McAuliffe's famous quote and mocked it as being simplistic.


15 posted on 12/12/2004 9:18:07 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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Thanks, that was a very heroic time, and our press was on our side, not the enemies' But of course, the liberal media was against joining the war until Stalin's Soviet was attacked, and then they were all for it.

NUTS! Damn, don't you just love it!

16 posted on 12/12/2004 9:18:21 AM PST by xJones
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At the point of the Bulge at the German's farthest advance was a small Belgium town which contained only a small unit of typists, truck drivers and cooks. Before the Bulge it was many miles behind the front.

The commander of that unit was Col Arthur C. Parker. When the attack came toward that town from three directions, Col. Parker had only four field artillery guns to use against the German tanks. He had the gunners lower their barrels to horizontal, and fire down the roads to stop the tanks.

Col. Parker was wounded on the first day. He refused to evacuate. For three days that ill-equipped, undermanned unit held that crossroads against all of the German attacks. On the fourth day, the Americans reinforced and relieved them.

I know that story not from my Uncle Arthur, because he never spoke of those events. I know it from the history books that describe the defense of that town.

Arthur Parker was a dirt farmer in Alabama until the war began and he enlisted. After the war, he returned to Alabama and became a dirt farmer once again. On the shoulders of such men, in every era in our history, the strength and greatness of America is built.

Congressman Billybob

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17 posted on 12/12/2004 9:19:52 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Visit: www.ArmorforCongress.com please.)
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Tonight on CBS News: Quagmire in Belgium!


18 posted on 12/12/2004 9:20:46 AM PST by ScottFromSpokane (We're none of us prefect.)
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and to the muslims if that day comes(a WMD in the US) i say the current day version of"nuts" F--- y-- and proceede to vaporize


19 posted on 12/12/2004 9:20:48 AM PST by rang1995 (They will love us when we win)
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The media at the time rightly attacked Germany's invasion of Poland but never got around to condemning the Soviets when they stabbed the Poles in the back a couple of weeks later.


20 posted on 12/12/2004 9:21:22 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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