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Democrats Turn to Leader of Religious Left
New York Times ^ | January 17, 2005 | DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Posted on 01/17/2005 12:20:04 AM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 01/17/2005 12:20:06 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Leftists talking to Leftists. Now there's a start in the Democrats' quest to reconnect to Flyover Country Americans! (laughing)


2 posted on 01/17/2005 12:23:05 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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"Failure makes you reassess," he said. "The Democratic Party has increasingly had a problem as being perceived as secular fundamentalists."

Since the core fundamentals of the democrat party are exactly what they are perceived to be it is clear that their intent is not to change but to mask the truth.

3 posted on 01/17/2005 12:24:00 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: nickcarraway

Ooh, looks like they want to play bait-and-switch. What else is new...


4 posted on 01/17/2005 12:25:00 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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Nice way to sum it up


5 posted on 01/17/2005 12:25:32 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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Their secular base hates God Talk and draws the line at inviting people of genuine faith into their party. Its more of the same old, same old "How Can Fool 'Em Better Next Time" hooey. Since they won't change their policies, they're not going to attract mainstream Americans back into voting for the Democrats. They still seem to think there's nothing wrong with the product, they just need to slap a slicker label on it.


6 posted on 01/17/2005 12:28:29 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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James P. Manley, a spokesman for the Senate minority leader, Harry Reid of Nevada, said the reason Mr. Reid, a Mormon, had invited Mr. Wallis to speak was obvious. "It is clear from the results of the election that we Democrats need to be much more forceful and clear in communicating their faith and values to the electorate," Mr. Manley said.

Oh, but ya'all were very clear: you have no faith or values.

7 posted on 01/17/2005 12:29:24 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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Mr. Wallis, a registered Democrat, told the senators that the Bible contains more than 3,000 references to alleviating poverty.

The Bible is also quite clear that 10% of your income should be sufficient to address the problem. How will the demonrats squirm around that? Propose reducing taxes so that all transfer payments = 10% of income? I'd like to see them try (no, really, I would).

8 posted on 01/17/2005 12:31:47 AM PST by lafroste (gravity is not a force, dangit)
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Duhh! I answered my own question. 10% IS sufficient to address the problem. It's the other 40% in administrative costs that keep taxes where they should (according to the rats) be.


9 posted on 01/17/2005 12:34:06 AM PST by lafroste (gravity is not a force, dangit)
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Yep. Jean Francois would only mention God and Catholicism when he was asked to. That's how allergic the Democrats have become of anything that sniffs the slightest of divinity. They have a long way to go before people who regularly attend church and synagogue will even consider pulling the levers for them.


10 posted on 01/17/2005 12:34:28 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: nickcarraway
John Kerry went to every church he could find that would let him in ...

There were pictures of it weekly

The left STILL doesn't get it

11 posted on 01/17/2005 12:35:23 AM PST by Mo1 (Does the distinguished Sen from VT wish to act as our treaty rep. for negotiations with Al Queda?)
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More lib book deals and conveniently coordinated DNC tactics...


12 posted on 01/17/2005 12:38:28 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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Mr. Wallis, a registered Democrat, told the senators that the Bible contains more than 3,000 references to alleviating poverty.

I wonder how many Bible references there are to mandatory, forced redistribution of wealth from haves to have nots, with no success in alleviating, much less in eliminating, poverty among a society.

13 posted on 01/17/2005 12:38:42 AM PST by Choose Ye This Day (Socialism failed. Bush won. Wellstone is dead. Get over it, DUmmies!)
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Mr. Reid, a Mormon

Mormon Democrat. That should be an oxymoron (as opposed to an oxyMormon), but it's not. Still, it was good to see Bush win Utah by a higher margin than any other state.

14 posted on 01/17/2005 12:41:56 AM PST by Choose Ye This Day (Socialism failed. Bush won. Wellstone is dead. Get over it, DUmmies!)
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Heh. So, now, after YEARS of making fun of social conservatives, now the 'rats are going to try to APPEAL to them??

Rotsa Ruck.

15 posted on 01/17/2005 12:43:53 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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James P. Manley, a spokesman for the Senate minority leader, Harry Reid of Nevada, said the reason Mr. Reid, a Mormon, had invited Mr. Wallis to speak was obvious. "It is clear from the results of the election that we Democrats need to be much more forceful and clear in communicating their faith and values to the electorate," Mr. Manley said.

Uh, sure...

When Harry Met Roe [Reid is not pro-life]

16 posted on 01/17/2005 12:44:18 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Harry Reid is pro-life. That doesn't sit well with the NOW NAGS, Planned Parenthood and NARAL.


17 posted on 01/17/2005 12:44:26 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Yeah, you know, everytime leadership is discussed among many evangelicals, the name Jim Wallis immediately comes up. <\delusion>


18 posted on 01/17/2005 12:45:46 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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Harry Reid is pro-life

Check 16

19 posted on 01/17/2005 12:46:25 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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One liberal does not a religious flock make. The Democrats have an inability to talk to people on the other side of the divide.


20 posted on 01/17/2005 12:47:01 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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