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Oil-for-Food a Failure From the Start? (Saddam bio labs, to put sarin in perfume bottles)
FoxNews ^ | Feb. 11, 2005 | FoxNews

Posted on 02/12/2005 8:49:38 AM PST by FairOpinion

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To: FairOpinion

Most perfumes are not sealed like food is, either. It would be easy to buy some inexpensive but well known brands and lace them with something.

Of course, some of those inexpensive brands have seemed fairly poisonous even without anything added...


41 posted on 02/12/2005 9:52:47 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: FairOpinion

You are right. A lot of the country quit looking at their mail for a long time.

Also, for low-tech terrorism, consider the two snipers who paralized a good portion of the east coast for weeks. Point being, it doesn't seem to take a lot to spook the public. A spooked public usually isn't a "shopping" public.


42 posted on 02/12/2005 9:55:49 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: honest2God
Not really, they used soda cans and lunch boxes in Japan. Sarin Poisoning on Tokyo Subway

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"The nerve gas sarin was released in commuter trains on three different Tokyo subway lines by a terrorist cult group. Sarin was concealed in lunch boxes and soft-drink containers and placed on subway train floors. It was released as terrorists punctured the containers with umbrellas before leaving the trains. The incident was timed to coincide with rush hour, when trains were packed with commuters. Over 5,500 were injured in the attack."

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43 posted on 02/12/2005 10:11:46 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: MizSterious
"Of course, some of those inexpensive brands have seemed fairly poisonous even without anything added..."

You've got it there. Ever been trapped in an elevator with someone laced with this stuff? Ugh!

44 posted on 02/12/2005 10:15:51 AM PST by drt1
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To: MizSterious
"A spooked public usually isn't a "shopping" public."

Especially when they are stoked to a frenzy of what is, likely, irrational and usually ultimately unfounded panic by a 24/7 MSM.

45 posted on 02/12/2005 10:18:37 AM PST by drt1
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To: Mo1

LOL. Dems and Hollywood could use the fashion show line along with their no WMD mantra. It always irritated me that old media latched onto the no WMD stockpiles in David Kays report and didn't bother to mention that he also said Saddam was more dangerous than we originally thought.


46 posted on 02/12/2005 11:04:56 AM PST by pieces of time
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To: doug from upland
Sarin in perfume bottles? What an idiot that I didn't finish the novel five years ago.

It needs a catchy name, like "Eau d'Saddam".

47 posted on 02/12/2005 11:25:15 AM PST by HAL9000
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To: FairOpinion
Here's a link to the website of that conference in Munich this week, the one Rummy's attending.

Guess who's getting a medal?

48 posted on 02/12/2005 11:32:37 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: FairOpinion

Excellent find.

Bump for more attention.


49 posted on 02/12/2005 11:50:24 AM PST by aculeus
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To: mewzilla

"Next Saturday, when Kofi Annan will be presented the first edition of the new “peace plaque”, it will mean much more than a piece of pure silver changing hands; the Secretary-General of the United Nations will receive a symbol meant to represent the opportunity of creating peace through open dialogue. "

http://www.securityconference.de/konferenzen/2005/medal.php?menu_2005=&menu_konferenzen=&sprache=en&




This is an outrage!


50 posted on 02/12/2005 12:09:41 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: pieces of time

This can't be true!! I heard Terry McAuliffe say Sadam had NO WMD's just this morning.


51 posted on 02/12/2005 12:16:31 PM PST by griswold3
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To: griswold3

I think the Democrats should be taken on a tour of Saddam's labs, but even if they saw them with their own eyes, they would still say, that those things don't count.

Saddam was merely experimenting with "perfumes" and he thought sarin may have a pleasant smell and we wouldn't let him develop his commercial interests.


52 posted on 02/12/2005 12:31:24 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Indy Pendance

5,000 injured, about a dozen killed, that is not the several thousand cited in the article. Aum shinrikyo tried using sarin again by blowing out of a van, and that didn't hurt anyone but themselves. Getting a hold of chem/bio agents is not the most difficult part, it is weaponizing it. These numbers citied are not realistic. Chem/bio weapons are a threat, but this article is hype. The definitive book on the topic is Toxic Terror by Johnathan Tucker. Also take a look at www.cns.miis.edu.

Also, the question of Iraq's WMD was the extent of the programs after 1991. Be honest about this, there is too much spin on both sides.


53 posted on 02/12/2005 12:43:22 PM PST by honest2God
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To: FairOpinion

That's a good question.

There has been so many nasty and hoax items sent to public and private people I have lost track.

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http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18024233.700

http://www.google.com

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22sprayed+an+unknown+substance%22&hl=en&lr=&filter=0

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22poisoned+perfume%22&hl=en&lr=&filter=0

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22chemicals+in+perfume%22&hl=en&lr=&filter=0


54 posted on 02/12/2005 1:09:29 PM PST by Cindy
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To: kizzdogg

self mark


55 posted on 02/12/2005 1:39:22 PM PST by kizzdogg
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To: LowOiL

Another Self Mark...


56 posted on 02/12/2005 3:43:33 PM PST by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: pieces of time
. It always irritated me that old media latched onto the no WMD stockpiles in David Kays report and didn't bother to mention that he also said Saddam was more dangerous than we originally thought.

I wonder if they actually read the report

Hmmm ... how did Tommy Franks describe it in his book ? ... it was like a dismantled pistol sitting on the table just waiting for it to be put together

57 posted on 02/12/2005 4:41:38 PM PST by Mo1 (Question to Liberals .. When did supporting and defending Freedom become a bad thing??)
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To: stylin19a

Depends on the quality???


58 posted on 02/12/2005 4:44:00 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: FairOpinion
Forget Sarin. Forget any chem.

Go Bio with one tester bottle, with a heavy duty respiratory infectious agent, with say about a 48 hour incubation period, a 72 hour mild symptoms but very contagious stage, then a 12 hour death cycle.

No one would ever trace it.

One woman switching tester bottles in 3 stores in greater NYC. Disaster.
59 posted on 02/12/2005 8:38:23 PM PST by MindBender26 (Having your own XM177 E2 means never having to say you are sorry......)
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To: honest2God

"5,000 injured, about a dozen killed, that is not the several thousand cited in the article."

Are you saying that you would not mind being in the injured or killed group? Are you saying that if this happened near you that you would not be terrorized?

Talk about being honest. BE HONEST HERE.


60 posted on 02/12/2005 10:29:21 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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