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Time to part company
myself | 4/1/05 | hchutch

Posted on 04/01/2005 2:39:59 PM PST by hchutch

Six months ago, Free Republic was riding high, and I was proud to be a part of it. It was coming off having blown the cover off of Dan Rather’s use of forged memos against the President. The President was well on his way to winning re-election. It was a great time to be a Freeper.

However, things have changed. It started with the justifiable removal of ALIPAC. I supported that move by Jim Robinson, but the ugliness directed towards Alberto Gonzales. He was accused of everything under the sun, and Senator Mel Martinez was viciously attacked for speaking Spanish on the Senate floor. The tone and outright viciousness (terms like FROBL and traitor were fired off at anyone who did not toe the line established by Michelle Malkin and Tom Tancredo) on immigration threads had concerned me, but I had concluded it was an isolated incident. After ALIPAC was removed from FR, I had hoped the tone there would improve. But it only got worse. I was point-blank called a traitor because my views on immigration differ from those of Michelle Malkin’s groupies. On immigration threads, questioning the questionable is not allowed. One must accept the unacceptable and allow folks to defend the indefensible. Never mind that VDARE, American Renaissance, and other sites are racist or have no problem hanging out with those that are racists (I’m just going to call a spade a spade here).

There were folks who had the long knives out for Senator Rick Santorum, one of the strongest pro-life members of the United States Senate. Why? Because he endorsed Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey. It was stunning to see these long knives out for a conservative. And all it would accomplish would be his replacement by a Democrat. How in the world replacing Rick Santorum with a Democrat would aid conservatism is beyond me, but it was demanded because Santorum endorsed Specter. The long knives were out, and I suppose it was a sign of what was to come.

The whole Terri Schiavo case has changed everything for me. A mob mentality took over the first few days after the order to pull the tube was given. Anyone who did not toe the line was attacked. I saw a dedicated active-duty member of our armed forces called a “Maine liberal” for simply asking why troops in harm’s way did not get the same sort of “all-nighter” attention that Terri Schiavo got. It was a reasonable question – we have 40-year-old P-3s still out there. We have a war on terrorism still going on, in case folks have not noticed. We have to get Social Security fixed. I say this as a person who believes that at best, Michael Schiavo’s relationship with a woman (and having two kids with her) meant he had a conflict of interest – and that he had decided that Terri was inconvenient. I cannot take his word alone that Terri would have wanted this. I also believe that George Felos is a supporter of euthanasia, and that he is using this case for his own ends. Those folks give me the creeps, and I think that Jim Robinson was on the right side of this issue. However, I also got a very bad feeling when the Schindlers embraced the likes of Randall Terry and Bo Gritz. I had to wonder what has happened to the conservative movement when the threads were allowed to spiral so out of control. The concept of euthanasia is repulsive and disgusting, but it does not excuse allowing the threads to spin out of control.

I have seen the President of the United States, George W. Bush, and the Governor of Florida, John Ellis Bush, take huge political risks in an effort to save Terri’s life. I believe they were doing their best to do the right thing, and that the original law passed in 2003 was a reasonable one that was wrongly stuck down by Judge Greer and the Florida Supreme Court. I think that the Republican Party has taken a huge risk to give Terri a chance at life, and I am disgusted with those who seek a pretext that will justify leaving the GOP in the lurch. I’m sick of the way the Terri threads spun out of control, and the vicious attacks launched at reasonable people who came to a different conclusions about the situation or who pointed out facts that certain people found inconvenient. This is not what I signed on here for.

I believe in a strong national defense, cutting taxes, and in general trying to keep government involvement as minimal as possible (there are times when the best one can do is to limit government involvement in a situation). I am pro-life (with exceptions for rape, incest, and to protect the life of the mother) and pro-Second Amendment. However, I do NOT want the federal government to be involved in any culture war. “Culture” was never mentioned in the constitution, thus I believe it is left to the States or TO THE PEOPLE (see the Tenth Amendment). I do NOT think immigration is a problem, but I believe some mistakes were made along the way (like eliminating the bracero program). I also think that the President of the United States has proposed a sensible plan that will go a long way towards solving the problems on our border with Mexico and do much to alleviate the problems surrounding illegal immigration. Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that it is time for me and Free Republic to part company, because Free Republic has left this limited-government neoconservative. In the process of Free Republic leaving me, I now find that I fear the social conservatives as much as I fear the loony left. As a result of coming to this conclusion, I ask that my account be deleted and all posts I have made, save for this opus and the ping to my friends be removed.

I do this with regret, since I will miss some of those who I have met here, but I feel no other choice. So long.


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To: hchutch
Awwwwwww..... Wooks wike somebody needs a great big hug!

There, now will you stay if we all promise to be nice?

121 posted on 04/01/2005 3:08:28 PM PST by Richard Kimball (It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
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To: SandyInSeattle

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0316159948/qid=1112396780/sr=5-1/ref=cm_lm_asin/002-8278543-0404837?v=glance


122 posted on 04/01/2005 3:09:15 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Kill For Peace.")
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To: peyton randolph

Yeah blah blah blah. Either you are lying about lurking for nearly 6 years, and never signing up, or you are a retread.

Which is it? What was your former screen name?


123 posted on 04/01/2005 3:09:27 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: hchutch

Be Happy!!!!


124 posted on 04/01/2005 3:09:33 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: silent_jonny
Congratulations! Here's a cookie.

What?! Only four chocolate chips? Or are they raisons? I hate raisons.

125 posted on 04/01/2005 3:09:34 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: Redcloak

Good Cigar!


126 posted on 04/01/2005 3:09:38 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Mama, take this judgeship off of Greer, he can't use it, anymore")
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I don't believe you.

Well, you're entitled to your opinion...wrong as usual...but you're entitled to it. Doesn't change the fact that I've lurked here since '98 or that your purported seniority won't get you anything except in a union shop.

127 posted on 04/01/2005 3:10:03 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Perfect for a good opus thread.


128 posted on 04/01/2005 3:10:40 PM PST by Redcloak (But what do I know? I'm just a right-wing nut in his PJs whackin' on a keyboard..)
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To: Dan from Michigan

I have one in my humidor, but I'm just keeping it for a friend. If he doesn't reclaim it soon, to hell with him-----I'm smoking it.


129 posted on 04/01/2005 3:10:42 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Wow! Thanks!


130 posted on 04/01/2005 3:10:44 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: peyton randolph

Seems to me if seniority meant anything we'd all be worshiping Senator "KKK" Byrd.


131 posted on 04/01/2005 3:10:58 PM PST by beandog (The only time I was wrong was the time I thought I was wrong)
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To: hchutch
BUH-BYE, Hutch! We'll miss your brilliant insights.

(Off Sarcasm)

132 posted on 04/01/2005 3:11:14 PM PST by albee (A paranoid schizophrenic is somebody who just found out what is going on.)
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To: theFIRMbss
Woody Guthrie!

I hate to admit this, but I actually prefer other folk artists covering his stuff to the original songs themselves.

-good times, G.J.P. (Jr.)

133 posted on 04/01/2005 3:11:45 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Kill For Peace.")
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To: peyton randolph

Nobody lurks here for nearly seven years.

You're not being honest about your history here. Why not?


134 posted on 04/01/2005 3:11:56 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Pro-Terri - NOT anti-Bush.)
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To: hchutch

Are you kidding? You post an Opus like that and nobody's supposed to say anything? Is that your MO? Here's a thought: Screw You. We're from Texas: Screw You

How dare you come swooping in on a day like this when everyone is focused on their grief, on a day when we feel like we're on a deathwatch that's gone on for a month, during an Easter that hasn't been much of a celebration at all, and sh!t all over everything with a stupid demand for attention. GROW UP! Don't come back till you do.

Get out of here! Who needs you? This forum is not for the faint hearted.

In the immortal words of the demon general arafat: bye-bye.


135 posted on 04/01/2005 3:12:02 PM PST by johnb838 (Blessed Are The Dead, Who Die In The Lord, For They Rest From Their Labors.)
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To: hchutch

Just take a break and check in later. You've been around long enough to know that much of which you complain about are (1) one issue types (2) agitproper/poseurs etc. I've always enjoyed your comments and you'll be missed....


136 posted on 04/01/2005 3:12:09 PM PST by eureka! (It will not be safe to vote Democrat for a long, long, time...)
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To: TXBubba
Then again, I was never invited.

You're invited! Join us on the Undead Thread II:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1306051/posts

137 posted on 04/01/2005 3:12:15 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: peyton randolph; Chad Fairbanks
Wrong answer. Lurked here since '98. Don't try to pull rank based on seniority. Only works in unions.

I believe him, Chad. Just like I believe that the military industrial complex is a front for multi-national corporations whose sole purpose is to conspire against Michael Jackson's monkey.

Seriesly, man...


138 posted on 04/01/2005 3:12:35 PM PST by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: hchutch
Your words are well taken. People need to be more civil to each other. I agree with you about Santorum and the "long knives" being out. I posted on that thread and received a response I didn't care for, so I didn't respond to the thread anymore. But I made my point.

So, my advice to everyone is to not get into a pissing contest at FR. Even if they give you reason to be nasty, don't take the bait.

I like the humor on FR better than the fighting, unless it is with a DU troll.

You can still visit FR without posting. It is still a great source for news of all kinds. Better to watch a fight than to be in one.

139 posted on 04/01/2005 3:12:41 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Nobody lurks here for nearly seven years.

I didn't even last 7 days before I had to get my two cents in.

140 posted on 04/01/2005 3:13:18 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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