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Time to part company
myself | 4/1/05 | hchutch

Posted on 04/01/2005 2:39:59 PM PST by hchutch

Six months ago, Free Republic was riding high, and I was proud to be a part of it. It was coming off having blown the cover off of Dan Rather’s use of forged memos against the President. The President was well on his way to winning re-election. It was a great time to be a Freeper.

However, things have changed. It started with the justifiable removal of ALIPAC. I supported that move by Jim Robinson, but the ugliness directed towards Alberto Gonzales. He was accused of everything under the sun, and Senator Mel Martinez was viciously attacked for speaking Spanish on the Senate floor. The tone and outright viciousness (terms like FROBL and traitor were fired off at anyone who did not toe the line established by Michelle Malkin and Tom Tancredo) on immigration threads had concerned me, but I had concluded it was an isolated incident. After ALIPAC was removed from FR, I had hoped the tone there would improve. But it only got worse. I was point-blank called a traitor because my views on immigration differ from those of Michelle Malkin’s groupies. On immigration threads, questioning the questionable is not allowed. One must accept the unacceptable and allow folks to defend the indefensible. Never mind that VDARE, American Renaissance, and other sites are racist or have no problem hanging out with those that are racists (I’m just going to call a spade a spade here).

There were folks who had the long knives out for Senator Rick Santorum, one of the strongest pro-life members of the United States Senate. Why? Because he endorsed Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey. It was stunning to see these long knives out for a conservative. And all it would accomplish would be his replacement by a Democrat. How in the world replacing Rick Santorum with a Democrat would aid conservatism is beyond me, but it was demanded because Santorum endorsed Specter. The long knives were out, and I suppose it was a sign of what was to come.

The whole Terri Schiavo case has changed everything for me. A mob mentality took over the first few days after the order to pull the tube was given. Anyone who did not toe the line was attacked. I saw a dedicated active-duty member of our armed forces called a “Maine liberal” for simply asking why troops in harm’s way did not get the same sort of “all-nighter” attention that Terri Schiavo got. It was a reasonable question – we have 40-year-old P-3s still out there. We have a war on terrorism still going on, in case folks have not noticed. We have to get Social Security fixed. I say this as a person who believes that at best, Michael Schiavo’s relationship with a woman (and having two kids with her) meant he had a conflict of interest – and that he had decided that Terri was inconvenient. I cannot take his word alone that Terri would have wanted this. I also believe that George Felos is a supporter of euthanasia, and that he is using this case for his own ends. Those folks give me the creeps, and I think that Jim Robinson was on the right side of this issue. However, I also got a very bad feeling when the Schindlers embraced the likes of Randall Terry and Bo Gritz. I had to wonder what has happened to the conservative movement when the threads were allowed to spiral so out of control. The concept of euthanasia is repulsive and disgusting, but it does not excuse allowing the threads to spin out of control.

I have seen the President of the United States, George W. Bush, and the Governor of Florida, John Ellis Bush, take huge political risks in an effort to save Terri’s life. I believe they were doing their best to do the right thing, and that the original law passed in 2003 was a reasonable one that was wrongly stuck down by Judge Greer and the Florida Supreme Court. I think that the Republican Party has taken a huge risk to give Terri a chance at life, and I am disgusted with those who seek a pretext that will justify leaving the GOP in the lurch. I’m sick of the way the Terri threads spun out of control, and the vicious attacks launched at reasonable people who came to a different conclusions about the situation or who pointed out facts that certain people found inconvenient. This is not what I signed on here for.

I believe in a strong national defense, cutting taxes, and in general trying to keep government involvement as minimal as possible (there are times when the best one can do is to limit government involvement in a situation). I am pro-life (with exceptions for rape, incest, and to protect the life of the mother) and pro-Second Amendment. However, I do NOT want the federal government to be involved in any culture war. “Culture” was never mentioned in the constitution, thus I believe it is left to the States or TO THE PEOPLE (see the Tenth Amendment). I do NOT think immigration is a problem, but I believe some mistakes were made along the way (like eliminating the bracero program). I also think that the President of the United States has proposed a sensible plan that will go a long way towards solving the problems on our border with Mexico and do much to alleviate the problems surrounding illegal immigration. Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that it is time for me and Free Republic to part company, because Free Republic has left this limited-government neoconservative. In the process of Free Republic leaving me, I now find that I fear the social conservatives as much as I fear the loony left. As a result of coming to this conclusion, I ask that my account be deleted and all posts I have made, save for this opus and the ping to my friends be removed.

I do this with regret, since I will miss some of those who I have met here, but I feel no other choice. So long.


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To: peyton randolph

How do you know who cares or not? You haven't been here long enough to make that determination.


81 posted on 04/01/2005 2:58:42 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Pro-Terri - NOT anti-Bush.)
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To: cripplecreek

Perfect! Consider him downloaded to my hard drive.


82 posted on 04/01/2005 2:58:56 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: peyton randolph

LOL--exactly.


83 posted on 04/01/2005 2:58:59 PM PST by silent_jonny
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To: hchutch
I turn on the tube and what do I see
A whole lotta people cryin' "don't blame me"
They point their crooked little fingers ar everybody else
Spend all their time feelin' sorry for themselves
Victim of this, victim of that
Your momma's too thin; your daddy's too fat

Get over it
Get over it
All this whinin' and cryin' and pitchin' a fit
Get over it, get over it

You say you haven't been the same since you had your little crash
But you might feel better if I gave you some cash
The more I think about it, old billy was right
Let's kill all the lawyers, kill 'em tonight
You don't want to work, you want to live like a king
But the big, bad world doesn't owe you a thing

Get over it
Get over it
If you don't want to play, then you might as well split
Get over it, get over it

It's like going to confession every time I hear you speak
You're makin' the most of your losin' streak
Some call it sick, but I call it weak

You drag it around like a ball and chain
You wallow in the guilt; you wallow in the pain
You wave it like a flag, you wear it like a crown
Got your mind in the gutter, bringin' everybody down
Complain about the present and blame it on the past
I'd like to find your inner child and kick it's little ass

Get over it
Get over it
All this bitchin' and moanin' and pitchin' a fit
Get over it, get over it

Get over it
Get over it
It's gotta stop sometime, so why don't you quit
Get over it, get over it
84 posted on 04/01/2005 2:59:00 PM PST by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "You're a luminary!" -- Howlin; "You are a wise man." -- Torie)
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To: hchutch
Wilson!! Come Back!

Dont leave, just take a break..

85 posted on 04/01/2005 2:59:16 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: silent_jonny
I guarantee nobody read your entire opus. A simple "Bye" would've sufficed.

Now, now, a good opus is a dying art form.

He'll probably be back in a few weeks, unless the Betty Ford clinic has set up a wing for Freepers suffering through withdrawal...

86 posted on 04/01/2005 2:59:30 PM PST by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: hchutch

You speak for a lot of people, hchutch. It's the forum's loss.


87 posted on 04/01/2005 2:59:41 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Pro-Terri - NOT anti-Bush.)
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To: Junior_G
It's just about getting attention. It takes a special kind of pathetic to post the farewell manifesto to an internet forum, and I'm pathetically drawn in to marvel at it every time it happens.

That's why they always get about 1000 replies. The really pittiful ones do about 3 or 4 before they actually leave.

88 posted on 04/01/2005 3:00:33 PM PST by Always Right
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
You haven't been here long enough to make that determination.

Bzzz... Wrong answer. Lurked here since '98. Don't try to pull rank based on seniority. Only works in unions.

89 posted on 04/01/2005 3:00:40 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Junior_G
Can we really just have the mods delete all our old posts

I suppose. I've seen disrupter posts deleted across the board.

on a whim?

Well, I'd like to think the mods will occasionally protect us from ourselves...

90 posted on 04/01/2005 3:01:00 PM PST by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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To: dead

Wait! Don't leave! I never meant to imply you were simple!!


91 posted on 04/01/2005 3:01:01 PM PST by Billthedrill (Support FR - become a monthly donor!)
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To: sinkspur
That is ridiculous! LOL! Nevertheless I never said I was a victim or anything or anyone.

Reading comprehension seems to be an issue for you.

92 posted on 04/01/2005 3:01:17 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: Always Right

Exactly. And here I am making my fourth comment on this very thread. D'oh!!!


93 posted on 04/01/2005 3:01:32 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: hchutch
"That's Hot"
94 posted on 04/01/2005 3:01:39 PM PST by My Favorite Headache ( "I think she did too much coke, ahh you think so Doctor?")
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To: peyton randolph

Blah blah blah I lurked here for sooooooooo many years before I finally signed up blah blah blah.

If I had a nickel for every time some recently signed-up poster says that, I'd be rich... er...


95 posted on 04/01/2005 3:01:55 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: silent_jonny
I guarantee nobody read your entire opus.

So much for your guarantees. I read the entire opus.

96 posted on 04/01/2005 3:02:10 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

LOL! That's good.


97 posted on 04/01/2005 3:03:09 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: peyton randolph
Here’s a quarter

Call someone who cares

Um, TWO quarters now, according to the payphone I saw at the library today.

98 posted on 04/01/2005 3:03:13 PM PST by Who dat?
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To: Incorrigible

"Well, I'd like to think the mods will occasionally protect us from ourselves."

You don't know how many times I've wished for an "edit post" or even "delete post" button that would be available for already-posted posts.

Say that ten times fast. ;)


99 posted on 04/01/2005 3:03:16 PM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: hchutch

Hope you come back soon.


100 posted on 04/01/2005 3:03:27 PM PST by DCPatriot (Im a charter member in the WPPFF)
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