Posted on 04/30/2005 5:21:01 AM PDT by Founding Father
"Bank of America said its research suggests that the predecessor, Providence Bank..."
Providence Bank of Rhode Island.
Do you tolerate that sort of stuff?
No fair quoting my cousins.
You are entitled to your opinion, though. Of course I think you're doing a pretty good job all by yourself of proving that opinions don't = intelligence.
You would make Orwell proud.
I responded that there had been a long term economic downturn (a depression) that affected the major part of the then "Midwest" extensively. The Union Army had no problem recruiting fellows from that part of the country (Indiana, Illinois and Ohio) (including all 8 of my Great Great Grandfathers, all their brothers and cousins, and 2 of my Great Grandfathers, and all their brothers and cousins) to defend the Republic.
These men all had a lot to lose, and they did not give their lives freely ~ their intention was to put down the Rebellion and open up the West. Some of the exact same people I am mentioning here had worked at Sutter's Mill BEFORE gold was discovered, some had been in the fur trade, and a number of them had started opening up new farmland in Kansas only to find themselves involved in the Jayhawk War.
Now, you tell me what your ancestors did in the War. We will then reflect on the utility of your generalized beliefs in light of that experience. You might bone up on your statistics though, so you have a better idea of what percentage of which Northern state populations engaged in the war. It's kind of startling ~ New York had draft riots for example. In Indiana just about every able bodied man went to war.
General Butler was a good man. He saw right through the treachery of the Southern females. (BTW, there are actually books about this that cast everything in quite a different light than you Southerners are prone to do).
In the end the slaves were freed.
Good question. Do they pay or do they get. I'd say they'd better start shuffling those billfolds, same as me!
Still, your basic urban populations engaged in all sorts of behavior considered highly dangerous in predominantly rural America at that time.
"Sad for the slaves" must be regarded in context, because if the black Africans who enslaved them hadn't sold them to white slavers, they probably would have been eaten. I have no doubt that slavery sucks, but being consumed has to suck even more.
It was pretty high, and depending on your source and how you do the analysis it looks about as bad as the Holocaust, and actually worse in some areas.
One "bright" exception to the rule occurs in what is now the United States. Remarkably the only slave population ever known to have managed to reproduce itself and grow in numbers was right here. All the other places with slavery required a constant infusion of new captives.
Has something to do with the nature of the slavery and how people were treated.
Then your ancestors were as gullible as you, even without the benefit of public education.
BTW, some of them had been convicted under the Runaway Slave Act before the Civil War, so their motives are pretty clear wouldn't you think?
Especially since slavery was perfectly legal at the time.
Actually, yes, very commendable. But freeing slaves was not Abe Lincoln's top priority, and his methods were unconstitutional, to say the least.
Black and white slaves:). Bank of America is an Equal opportunity slave master.
you got that right! ;-)
In Lafayette: At the home of an infirm and bed-ridden man, all valuables were taken, including the covering on which the invalid was lying.
At Petite-Anse Island: United States soldiers entered the home of a man ninety years old, taking all his clothing and other valuables including the covers from his bed.
At St. Mary Parish: United States troops ransacked the home of a Mr. Goulas, stripping his family of all their clothes, even the infant's clothes, and all bedding.
At Fausse Pointe: While in the process of being robbed by U.S. troops, a Mr. Vilmeau heard his wife crying for help. Going to her aid, he found several soldiers fighting with her for her personal jewelry. While one succeeded in getting a ring from her hand by biting her finger, causing it to bleed profusely, another jerked her earrings out of her ears, tearing the flesh and causing them to bleed. Vilmeau was shot twice while trying to assist his bleeding wife.
At Morgan City: Even the resting place of the dead was not left alone by the U.S. soldiers. In this city the late Dr. Brashear's tomb was broken into by the Yankees, and his earthly remains were tossed out. His metal coffin was taken for their own use.
At New Iberia: The materials from graves were used for chimneys and hearthstones for the United States army. The cemetery was used as a horse corral. While the families of the deceased watched in horror, the U.S. troops ransacked the burial vaults of the dead, scattering the remains upon the ground.
Good to see the 'Beast' was such a good man with fine control over his forces. Heaven knows what would have happened if a real thug would have been in command...
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