Posted on 07/14/2005 10:04:45 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
LOS ANGELES -- A crowd assembled around a motorist being forcefully subdued by police eventually dispersed early Thursday, not far from demonstrators protesting an officer-involved shooting that left a baby dead, police said.
The gathering of the two groups prompted the LAPD to go on citywide tactical alert, which was later scaled down to a South Bureau tactical alert, a Los Angeles police officer said.
The incident involving the motorist started when a man who led police on a short pursuit that ended in his driveway at 84th Street and Towne Avenue shortly after 10 p.m. The man, whose name was not released, allegedly charged at two officers who had tried to pull him over for a traffic violation, police said.
As the officers struggled to take the man into custody, citizens filled the street, some of them agitated because of the protest taking place at 104th Street and Avalon Boulevard, police said.
The crowd at Towne Avenue dispersed around 11 p.m., but demonstrators at Avalon Boulevard continued to wave signs and chant slogans condemning police tactics, police said, and part of the the street was closed by police.
I was around in NJ when the 1967 and 1989 riots broke out. State government took 72 hours to deploy. Local cops barely held the cordoned off riot area and neighboring town citizens were on their own because their local cops were held in reserve to support the cops in the riot zone, and they protected city hall and police HQ. The same thing happen in the LA riots, except the politicians will take longer to make a decision (they needed time to do their political calculus on reelection before they can deal with public safety). So if you are smart, stock up for one week of food and water, and clean them guns and get them ready if you got them. Charlton Heston told a great story about the LA riots. When the rich neighborhoods were threaten, Mr Heston's liberal neighbors (many critics of the NRA) begged him to borrow his guns for self protection. He informed them that he could not because it was against the law to do so. When they asked how one buys a gun in California, he said they were shocked when they found out that there was a waiting period.
Wrong!
SEMP Biot #144: The Flawed Emergency Response to the 1992
Los Angeles Riots PART C
November 30, 2004
At about 9:00 pm on April 29, 1992, Wilson’s office, at Bradley’s request, contacted the Adjutant General of the California National Guard, Major General Robert Thrasher, who at 9:15 pm ordered troop mobilization, which meant the troops would be “in their armories” in about six hours.
By 4 am on April 30, 1992, 2,000 Guard troops had reported to about ten armories in the city area. The goal of getting the troops on the streets by 4 pm, April 30, was hindered by failure to assign which agency would coordinate the Guard’s involvement, deciding what its missions would be, and estimating how many more troops ultimately might be called up. Unknown to Thrasher and Wilson, most of the troops weren’t really trained to respond to a riot. As a result, commanders at the armories trained the troops on the spot.
Troops had to read and sign a copy of the Rules of Engagement, which emphasized the importance of restraint, so that soldiers “wouldn’t leave themselves open to charges, such as those that arose after the Watts riots, of having fired on rioters without adequate cause.” (C, p. 5)
A constraint quickly became apparent: there were insufficient ammunition and basic equipment, such as flak vests, face shields, and riot batons, available in the armories. _________________________________________________________
Yes, it was the '92 riots, you just have your era's and riots mixed up.
Please see #82. It was the '92 riots where the National Guard had equipment problems, namely ammunition.
http://www.semp.us/biots/biot_144.html
I was responding to you when you agreed with the other poster, saying the National Guard had ammo problems in the 1965 Watts riots.
I told you it was the '92 LA riots where that occurred and you said, "wrong".
I am not wrong.
The ammo didnt arrive for the 92 riots....
You got it.
That is also inaccurate. The NG had no problem with ammo in '65.
A small example of this.
There were two LAPD officers in an abandoned, partially burned apartment building on the 3rd floor that were attempting to spot shooters and bad guys. Due to lack of communications between LAPD and the NG, the NG rolled up and lit up the apartment building with automatic weapons, when seeing movement of armed people inside. They didn't know it was two LAPD officers. Both survived and were not injured.
I don't give a rats ass about 92 as I had no personal financial involvement and only lived in L.A. County but I was personally involved as were my employees and friends in the Watts riots and I spent many months working cleaning up the mess from that one. I could care less what the media reported because from personal knowledge their reporting was nothing but lies and distortions, mostly lies that were probably fed to them by the authorities.
we had the national guard in our strip mall near the traffic circle in long beach.
they had no ammo, but just their presence stopped the destruction of the mall. the local gangs had started by knocking out the windows of the laundermat.
there was a builders emporium, vons, and thrifty drug.
the guards ate their meals at cocos and pollys, also on the mall.
we were relieved by their presence.
afterwards, as the demographics changed, a gang came through and shot out all of the glass out of our apartment building swimming pool. (plates of glass 8' high the length of the pool and glass doors as well.)
we all moved out after that.
Right, in '92, not Watts '65.
sorry, i neglected to state the year.
i was not in los angeles in '65!
Glad you survived!
What do you call an SKS and 700 rounds of 7.62X39?
A good start. :^)
Yup. Happened just like that.
I was at the corner of Wilshire and Bixel, watching the fires get closer, and realized at some point that the cops were just going to let 'em burn for a while. Had two separate carloads of vatos show me their fine collection of firearms on the drive home that afternoon, and when I finally got home, my dumb liberal neighbor was there asking if her husband could borrow a self-defense tool.
Much, much better to be prepared, than the other way 'round.
Maybe in Heston's neighborhood, but that's not how I remember it.
Most everyone else was were armed. 10 hours into it, the news spread quick that law enforcement couldn't handle it and were actually pulling back in some areas to regroup.
It was like a call to arms.
I recall neighbors standing on their lawns and roofs with shootguns, long rifles and everything else, with black and whites driving by nodding, thumbs up.
Those in Korea Town appeared with thousands of arms, and held off the hords. There are photos on the web showing hundreds in front of their stores, all heavily armed.
So many became armed, it was a problem for law enforcement. A lot of waving and thumbs up proceeded between armed citizens and the police, to let them know they were friendly. I'll never forget, on the second day, driving by businesses that had 20 people on their roofs, all armed to protect their businesses and property.
Your funny.......
It's like the five blind men and the elephant. Myself, I was no where near Koreatown, and the second day I watched my yuppie neighbors pack up head for the tall grass.
aren't you going to bitch-slap dale anymore?
I had Korean friends who have contacts in LA during the Rodney King riot. Despite CA tough gun laws, the Koreans were out there with guns (some had assault rifles, and the cops did not even stop to bother them, they knew it didn't hurt because these "illegal" gunowners were on their side). One of them told me that six Koreans sat behind a table in the store like a panel just behind their broken shop windows with their weapons laid in front of them on the table waiting for trouble. Many of the weapons had banned features, but the cops just strolled by.
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