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Composition of a Comet Poses a Puzzle for Scientists
NY Times ^ | September 7, 2005 | KENNETH CHANG

Posted on 09/07/2005 12:10:01 PM PDT by neverdem

Although comets form at the frigid edges of the solar system, they appear somehow to contain minerals that form only in the presence of liquid water, and at much warmer temperatures, scientists are reporting today.

On July 4, as planned, part of the Deep Impact spacecraft - essentially an 820-pound, washing machine-size bullet - slammed into the comet Tempel 1 at 23,000 miles an hour. The collision tossed up thousands of tons of ice and dust from the comet that were observed by telescopes on Earth as well as small flotilla of spacecraft.

One of the observers was the Spitzer Space Telescope, a NASA mission that takes pictures in the infrared part of the spectrum. In the burst of light after the collision, Spitzer detected specific colors of infrared light that indicated that Tempel 1 contained clays and carbonates, the minerals of limestone and seashells.

Clays and carbonates both require liquid water to form.

"How do clays and carbonates form in frozen comets where there isn't liquid water?" said Carey M. Lisse, a research scientist at the Applied Physics Laboratory at Johns Hopkins University who is presenting the Spitzer data today at a meeting of the Division for Planetary Sciences in Cambridge, England. "Nobody expected this."

Spitzer also detected minerals known as crystalline silicates. Astronomers had already known that comets contain silicates, but silicates line up in neat crystal structures only when they are warmed to 1,300 degrees Fahrenheit - temperatures reached at around the orbit of Mercury - and then cooled.

"How do you do that and then how do you put that stuff into a comet that forms out by Pluto?" Dr. Lisse said.

Dr. Lisse said that the presence of the clays, carbonates and crystalline silicates indicated that material in the solar system's primordial cloud had somehow...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: astrochemistry; catastrophism; comets; deepimpact; minerals; nasa; science; tempel1; xplanets
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Arrows on a composite image of the comet Tempel 1 point to two areas where the surface is smooth instead of spotted with depressions.
1 posted on 09/07/2005 12:10:02 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

kewl--bump


2 posted on 09/07/2005 12:11:24 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: PatrickHenry

ping


3 posted on 09/07/2005 12:11:44 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
Clays and carbonates both require liquid water to form.

Sez them..........

4 posted on 09/07/2005 12:13:27 PM PDT by Red Badger (United States Marine Corps.....An army of WON!...........)
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To: neverdem

bump for later.

Could be that they are interpreting their IR signals with a terracentric view.

It also seems a bit rash to me to be generalizing data for all Oort and Kuiper objects using data from just one.


5 posted on 09/07/2005 12:13:52 PM PDT by DBrow
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"Could be that they are interpreting their IR signals with a terracentric view."

How horribly unprogressive. Down with terracentrism!


6 posted on 09/07/2005 12:15:17 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: neverdem

It looks like an interesting article, but no way am I going to the New York Times to read the rest.


7 posted on 09/07/2005 12:18:01 PM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: neverdem
This item (slightly different titles) has been posted twice before:
Deep Impact collision ejected the stuff of life , and
Deep Impact space collision reveals comets to be fluffy balls of powder .
8 posted on 09/07/2005 12:18:14 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Discoveries attributable to the scientific method -- 100%; to creation science -- zero.)
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To: neverdem

Metaresearch.org has some explanations for this. Interesting none the less


9 posted on 09/07/2005 12:18:38 PM PDT by Shark24
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To: neverdem

"How do clays and carbonates form in frozen comets where there isn't liquid water?"

Remnants from a previous solar system I venture to guess.


10 posted on 09/07/2005 12:19:47 PM PDT by PfromHoGro (The W knows.)
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To: Red Badger
essentially an 820-pound, washing machine-size bullet...Why didn't they use a hot water heater sized bullet?..or better yet a refrigerator sized bullet? The budget must have been slashed because I believe initial planning was for a piano sized bullet.
11 posted on 09/07/2005 12:21:49 PM PDT by carumba
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To: neverdem

It's taken a while for the analysis to start getting some results, as expected. The comet seems to be like a cottonball cone you would buy and possibly eat at the fair. There isn't much substance to it. But what there is would be very useful on the moon if they can get it there.


12 posted on 09/07/2005 12:22:10 PM PDT by RightWhale (We in heep dip trubble)
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To: P from Sheb

or remnants from the early bodies in this solar system.


13 posted on 09/07/2005 12:23:56 PM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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Hmmm... evidence of Tiamat? What do Enki, Enlil, and the rest of the Nibiruians have to say about this? ;-)


14 posted on 09/07/2005 12:24:50 PM PDT by adaven (www.conservative-talk.com)
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To: carumba
The budget was tight, so they had to BITE THE BULLET.........
15 posted on 09/07/2005 12:29:11 PM PDT by Red Badger (United States Marine Corps.....An army of WON!...........)
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To: neverdem
"How do you do that and then how do you put that stuff into a comet that forms out by Pluto?" Dr. Lisse said.

the obvious answer is that it formed somewhere warmer.

16 posted on 09/07/2005 12:31:09 PM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: King Prout

From the moon's birth perhaps.


17 posted on 09/07/2005 12:32:00 PM PDT by PfromHoGro (The W knows.)
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To: thchronic

No, it's just another piece of evidence for the exploded planet theory.


18 posted on 09/07/2005 12:33:49 PM PDT by Scarlet Pimpernel
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To: P from Sheb

or the collision which formed the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, or any number of other impacts.

al data indicates that the early solar system was a rather hoppin' jernt.


19 posted on 09/07/2005 12:34:17 PM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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20 posted on 09/07/2005 12:34:50 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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