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I was wrong; so please join me in supporting Harriet Miers.

Posted on 10/09/2005 3:28:25 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

I decided to end my self-imposed exile from posting due to information that I received this past weekend from ‘a little birdie’ in Washington, which I subsequently had confirmed by another ‘insider’ if you can call him that.

You know I won’t tell, so don’t bother asking me for names, links, or further information. I trust these individuals, and have received accurate information from them before and shared it here on Free Republic. Of course, all are free to either accept or reject what I am about to share, but if you know anything about the Dog, I don’t change my mind often, and my only goal is to pass on information that can help support the Conservative agenda.

Issue 1.

Information was shared with me on Saturday, which described in no uncertain terms that Harriet Miers stands as the only nominee on Bush’s list which has any chance of confirmation by the Senate Judiciary Committee. The reasons for this are numerous, and would be embarrassing to the Conservative movement should one or many of the ‘stars’ who we hoped Bush would select be shot down in Committee, which again, if true, would be a certainty.

More than one of the persons we might have wanted made it clear to the President that they would not accept his nomination if selected. You can draw your own conclusions as to why, but the only hint I will provide is that data mining works too damn well these days. What we saw back when Clarence Thomas was nominated would seem like a walk in the park, compared to what would be done to some of our most popular jurists.

Our Democrat opponents have been quite busy, especially after John Roberts embarrassed them, searching for any information that would allow an open personal attack on a nominee. Sadly, many of the folks we wanted badly would have had their lives destroyed had they attempted confirmation to the bench, and wisely declined. There is no one among us who has not done (or had a family member do) things that we either regret, or would rather keep to ourselves. Because none of us are perfect, it is possible that had one of our choices been selected, we might have lived to regret that day for a very long time.

Issue 2.

Arlen Specter is in my opinion, a traitor to the Conservative movement. He has made it clear to the White House that he is determined to protect his legacy, by NOT supporting any name among those who might make it possible to overturn Rowe V. Wade. What that means, is that had Bush put up someone who might make us proud, Specter reneged on a PROMISE to support Bush’s judicial nominees in return for his, (and especially Rick Santorum’s) support for his re-election. This promise was made when there was strong consideration for removing Specter’s pending chairmanship in favor of John Coryn, or an extension to the term of Orrin Hatch.

The removal of Specter from the Chairmanship would have been disastrous, because he would have remained a committee member, and would have sided with Democrats against the President’s selections out of spite. So, why not simply remove Specter from the committee? That would have been really bad PR, considering Specter’s health issues at the time these decisions were being made.

One could argue that it might have been best to send up nominee after nominee, even if eventually defeated, but remember that O’Conner is only around hoping for a quick confirmation so that she can be with her ill husband. Bush was under the gun to come up with a confirmable candidate, or risk a Supreme Court not running at full strength as important rulings came under review.

I am told that Arlen Specter has gone back on every single promise he made when his chairmanship was still a question, and feels untouchable now that he is ill, because any punitive measures taken against him would be seen as ‘less than compassionate’ by the MSM and Democrats, who admittedly would have a field day, were Specter punished for his duplicity. The sad thing is that after “Scottish Law” or even the “Magic Bullet theory” that some think that anything that Arlen Specter says can be trusted. Sure, he supported Clarence Thomas, but does anyone believe that Specter would still be a Senator if he had not?

Issue 3.

Let’s face it; our Republican Senate is an embarrassment. From the weakness of Frist, to the petulance of the dude who ‘thinks he is leader’ McCain, down to his McCainiac compadre Lindsey (tinker-bell) Graham, to the nut from Mississippi who thinks he can actually get his leadership position back by actively rebelling against the President, we aint looking to good at all.

Our Republican Senate has as members at least 7 Democrats who could have never gotten elected as Democrats, who nonetheless support the Democrat agenda whenever they can get away with it, which unfortunately due to the weakness of Frist, is all too often. I find myself wishing Tom Delay would run for the Senate against Hutchinson, just so we can have someone in the Senate not afraid to break some heads to get things done. Why can’t we have a Republican Lyndon Johnson when we need one?

Because our Republican Senate is so weak, President Bush cannot rely on them for much. He could not have gotten majority support in this current Senate for any judicial nominee that would have made us proud. The usual suspects have made it clear to the President that any nominee who would have put their re-election prospects at risk would vote against that nominee. The bottom line, is that the Republican Senate is made up of too many who want the job, but not the work. The only job they see before them is that of getting re-elected to another six year term.

Luttig, McConnell, JRB, Owen, Alito, or anyone else you want to name, would have been defeated, and probably defeated in committee, in order to save other Senators from having to vote them down on the floor. Of this, I am now convinced. Only two names were considered allowable for Senate confirmation; Miers and Gonzales. When Bush met with Senators, he was reportedly told that these two names were the only ones that stood a chance to be confirmed, but Gonzales would face pointed questions about Abu Gharab, Gitmo, and the administration’s policy on torture. It would have been ugly, but he would have been confirmed against the added damage done by dejected a dejected conservative base, and liberal attacks on the President’s agenda. There would have also had to be a new search for an Attorney General, which would have been just as ugly.

Had Bush put up selections that would have been defeated, the chorus of ‘Lame Duck’ chanting coming out of Washington would have drowned out the President’s agenda. A defeat in the Senate would have also signaled to Congress that they were on their own, and no longer had to back up, support, or even listen to President Bush. They would have been free to play the political-calculation game that the Democrats have been playing for 6 years; avoiding tough votes that would be used against them in a future campaign.

So, what’s the bottom line?

The bottom line is that Bush did his best to give us what we want, in a way that will not hurt the prospects of the Conservative agenda. The primary thing that must be considered, is that the Congress can NEVER be put back in Democrat hands, for that would destroy all progress made up to now. Our day will come, but this aint it. If we had a Republican Senate made up of real patriots without the odd liberal in Republican clothing, things would be a lot better.

In Miers, Bush has clearly taken what he can get, and our best hope now is for another vacancy on the court before this administration’s term is up. The current makeup of the Congress will just not allow our agenda to be passed at this time without major sacrifices and pragmatic thinking to overcome the inherit weakness of having traitors in our midst.

It appears to me that Harriet Miers is the best CONFIRMABLE candidate for the Supreme Court at this time. This fact is not the fault of the President. Indeed it is OUR fault. It is us who have supported less than the best candidates for the Senate. We are responsible for Chaffee, Snowe, McCain, Graham, Lott, Frist and other persons of questionable courage. We should not be blaming Bush for our own votes. We selected the people that the President must rely upon to move his agenda forward. If they are losers, then he loses too.

Though they literally suck, we are stuck with these people because we must keep the majority to keep our agenda alive. There have been worse moments for us, but none would be worse than than the day we lose the Senate our House majorities. I now believe that although Bush disapointed many of us, that he did the very best he could do without destroying our momentum.

Yes, like Rush Limbaugh said, it was a choice made from weakness.

But the thing to remember, is that it was not Bush’s weakness, but our own, and that of the people we have elected to Congress that made this happen. Had they been strong, Bush could have selected anyone we wanted.

Because of what I now know about how and why Harriet Miers was selected, I withdraw my earlier statements against her, my statements suggesting anything less than my strong support of the President, and finally, my self imposed exile from Free Republic.

Pukin Dog is back, so deal with it.


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To: Delta Dawn

If the W.H. is listening, then listen to this.

The Senate weasels need to be exposed to the people.

To do that, there would likely be casulaties.

Taxes, WOT, etc...

But do you want to take those injuries when you still have an army and upcoming election to fight back, or take them when you are in your last two years unable to strongly fight back.

Either way what we are headed for is a tax hike, more government control, no constitutionalists, terrorists protected more than our own citizens, withdrawal of our troops...all this is coming folks.

Expose the Traitors in the GOP, Expose the Red state Dems to their constituents. Your army is the majority of the American people. Fight back or give up. Those are the two options. I see no good in appeasing the enemy in the Senate.


401 posted on 10/09/2005 5:12:18 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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To: Pukin Dog
We cannot know if the others are confirmable if he doesn't try.

He could have put one or two of them up first, and then used Miers as a back-up plan.

It's not about Miss Miers; never has been. It's about what appears to be a big, fat middle finger to the base from Rove.

402 posted on 10/09/2005 5:12:34 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Stellar Dendrite
What's up with this "Fuzzy math"?

What math seemed fuzzy to you?

403 posted on 10/09/2005 5:12:56 PM PDT by Principled
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To: Delta Dawn

Bush DID just nominate who he wants! And although Rino's give us the majority that's much different than getting their votes.
There are actually two distinct terms here that are being confused: Republican and Conservative. There is a Republican majority in the Senate NOT a Conservative majority.


404 posted on 10/09/2005 5:12:59 PM PDT by pieces of time
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To: DJ MacWoW; Torie
This guy Beldar rocks. He approves of the Miers nomination and the research he has done to affirm his opinion is, well, staggering.
405 posted on 10/09/2005 5:13:07 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Beagle8U
Bless you.....I knew I couldn't have been the only one to hear this as I reported it.

It was indeed a spanking.

406 posted on 10/09/2005 5:13:07 PM PDT by Guenevere (God bless our military!...and God bless the President of the United States!)
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To: Guenevere

You are correct in your review of Brit's statement. However, I think his point was to Kristol that the Kristol didn't really 'know' all those people he was "approving" of. There were issues with one, perhaps there would be issues with more of them.


407 posted on 10/09/2005 5:13:10 PM PDT by Annie5622
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To: maryz
Bush people thot they really needed Pa to win. Sadly defeated Arlen people sitting on their hands would have decreased chances. Thank G-d 4 Ohio - but that was iffy 'cause of unemployment. You know we trust W to take us to war so why the skepticism on this? SIXTY is a big NUMBER!
408 posted on 10/09/2005 5:13:17 PM PDT by aumrl (I TRUST BUSH)
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To: irons_player
Who runs for the Senate (with the exception of those who self-finance their own campaign): all have an "R" after their name and vote for the "R" majority leader which means they get to divvy up the spoils (the chairmanships of the fiefdoms.)

What is required of the peons (you and me): Besides after sending the RNC your hard earned money to make certain the RINOS have campaign funds, voting for the "R" candidate no matter how much he reeks, and getting all your friends and neighbors to do the same, the RNC has no further use for you, conservatives, or people with principles. You're way too hard to deal with and you're always wanting something in return.

409 posted on 10/09/2005 5:13:36 PM PDT by penowa
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To: voteconstitutionparty
I can only share what I know. I do so knowing full well that there will be those who dont believe me, or dont want to believe me. So what?

When I post something before knowing all the facts, I guess I deserve what's coming when I change my mind. Bring it on.

410 posted on 10/09/2005 5:15:06 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Annie5622

Bless you too!


411 posted on 10/09/2005 5:15:28 PM PDT by Guenevere (God bless our military!...and God bless the President of the United States!)
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To: pieces of time

exactly. good post


412 posted on 10/09/2005 5:15:57 PM PDT by Annie5622
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To: Chgogal

Thanks for saying that Chgogal, if one of us guys said it we would be banned for eternity.


413 posted on 10/09/2005 5:16:05 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Show me a liberal or RINO and I'll show you a head & heart, fit for nothing but cracking walnuts.)
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To: dubyaismypresident

Theyv'e been going after laffey, who is more conservative than chaffee, like he's enemy #1.

Heaven forbid we get a more conservative senator from rhode island!


414 posted on 10/09/2005 5:16:09 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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To: Principled; A Jovial Cad

" What math seemed fuzzy to you?"

Let me make it crystal clear:

When an individual says "Welcome to FR" that means that they are a brand new poster.
To imply that someone is "new" by saying "welcome to FR" is what I call fuzzy math, AJC has been here for 3 years.


415 posted on 10/09/2005 5:16:19 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Mike Pence for President!!! http://acuf.org/issues/issue34/050415pol.asp)
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To: Pukin Dog

I'm no buying "the best we can get" excuse. I would place a large bet, this is nothing more than retrospective WH spin. They know they screwed up but they won't admit it.


416 posted on 10/09/2005 5:18:03 PM PDT by Maynerd
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To: flashbunny
Theyv'e been going after laffey, who is more conservative than chaffee, like he's enemy #1. Heaven forbid we get a more conservative senator from rhode island!

They protect the RINOs and then we are supposed to blame ourselves. Well I volunteered for Toomey in 2004 so I'll blame those who supported Specter. I'm not blaming myself.

417 posted on 10/09/2005 5:18:39 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (you call me a right wing extremist like it's a bad thing.....)
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To: jwalsh07

Ya, I read it, and then read the two most complex cases Beldar mentioned, and then posted about them. I have done my homework, and stand by my opinion. I am diappointed in the choice, give the prez wide descretion, and will not oppose her if she seem intellient and qualified, and has hit the books on the Consitution, and chats intelligently about it at her hearings, and will oppose her if she does not. I hope I am being clear about this.


418 posted on 10/09/2005 5:18:53 PM PDT by Torie
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To: flashbunny

Just don't ask who my little birdies are. I just can't reveal that.


419 posted on 10/09/2005 5:19:23 PM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: phil1750
We've spent the past 25 years fighting to get control of both the White House and the Congress at the same time so we could put in justices that wouldn't legislate from the bench, and now Bush acts like we are in the minority.

We are, in the Senate on the issue of abortion. The fact is, there are several nominally pro-life Senators who don't want Roe overturned. That's in addition to the out-and-out RINOs.

420 posted on 10/09/2005 5:19:54 PM PDT by sphinx
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