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I was wrong; so please join me in supporting Harriet Miers.

Posted on 10/09/2005 3:28:25 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

I decided to end my self-imposed exile from posting due to information that I received this past weekend from ‘a little birdie’ in Washington, which I subsequently had confirmed by another ‘insider’ if you can call him that.

You know I won’t tell, so don’t bother asking me for names, links, or further information. I trust these individuals, and have received accurate information from them before and shared it here on Free Republic. Of course, all are free to either accept or reject what I am about to share, but if you know anything about the Dog, I don’t change my mind often, and my only goal is to pass on information that can help support the Conservative agenda.

Issue 1.

Information was shared with me on Saturday, which described in no uncertain terms that Harriet Miers stands as the only nominee on Bush’s list which has any chance of confirmation by the Senate Judiciary Committee. The reasons for this are numerous, and would be embarrassing to the Conservative movement should one or many of the ‘stars’ who we hoped Bush would select be shot down in Committee, which again, if true, would be a certainty.

More than one of the persons we might have wanted made it clear to the President that they would not accept his nomination if selected. You can draw your own conclusions as to why, but the only hint I will provide is that data mining works too damn well these days. What we saw back when Clarence Thomas was nominated would seem like a walk in the park, compared to what would be done to some of our most popular jurists.

Our Democrat opponents have been quite busy, especially after John Roberts embarrassed them, searching for any information that would allow an open personal attack on a nominee. Sadly, many of the folks we wanted badly would have had their lives destroyed had they attempted confirmation to the bench, and wisely declined. There is no one among us who has not done (or had a family member do) things that we either regret, or would rather keep to ourselves. Because none of us are perfect, it is possible that had one of our choices been selected, we might have lived to regret that day for a very long time.

Issue 2.

Arlen Specter is in my opinion, a traitor to the Conservative movement. He has made it clear to the White House that he is determined to protect his legacy, by NOT supporting any name among those who might make it possible to overturn Rowe V. Wade. What that means, is that had Bush put up someone who might make us proud, Specter reneged on a PROMISE to support Bush’s judicial nominees in return for his, (and especially Rick Santorum’s) support for his re-election. This promise was made when there was strong consideration for removing Specter’s pending chairmanship in favor of John Coryn, or an extension to the term of Orrin Hatch.

The removal of Specter from the Chairmanship would have been disastrous, because he would have remained a committee member, and would have sided with Democrats against the President’s selections out of spite. So, why not simply remove Specter from the committee? That would have been really bad PR, considering Specter’s health issues at the time these decisions were being made.

One could argue that it might have been best to send up nominee after nominee, even if eventually defeated, but remember that O’Conner is only around hoping for a quick confirmation so that she can be with her ill husband. Bush was under the gun to come up with a confirmable candidate, or risk a Supreme Court not running at full strength as important rulings came under review.

I am told that Arlen Specter has gone back on every single promise he made when his chairmanship was still a question, and feels untouchable now that he is ill, because any punitive measures taken against him would be seen as ‘less than compassionate’ by the MSM and Democrats, who admittedly would have a field day, were Specter punished for his duplicity. The sad thing is that after “Scottish Law” or even the “Magic Bullet theory” that some think that anything that Arlen Specter says can be trusted. Sure, he supported Clarence Thomas, but does anyone believe that Specter would still be a Senator if he had not?

Issue 3.

Let’s face it; our Republican Senate is an embarrassment. From the weakness of Frist, to the petulance of the dude who ‘thinks he is leader’ McCain, down to his McCainiac compadre Lindsey (tinker-bell) Graham, to the nut from Mississippi who thinks he can actually get his leadership position back by actively rebelling against the President, we aint looking to good at all.

Our Republican Senate has as members at least 7 Democrats who could have never gotten elected as Democrats, who nonetheless support the Democrat agenda whenever they can get away with it, which unfortunately due to the weakness of Frist, is all too often. I find myself wishing Tom Delay would run for the Senate against Hutchinson, just so we can have someone in the Senate not afraid to break some heads to get things done. Why can’t we have a Republican Lyndon Johnson when we need one?

Because our Republican Senate is so weak, President Bush cannot rely on them for much. He could not have gotten majority support in this current Senate for any judicial nominee that would have made us proud. The usual suspects have made it clear to the President that any nominee who would have put their re-election prospects at risk would vote against that nominee. The bottom line, is that the Republican Senate is made up of too many who want the job, but not the work. The only job they see before them is that of getting re-elected to another six year term.

Luttig, McConnell, JRB, Owen, Alito, or anyone else you want to name, would have been defeated, and probably defeated in committee, in order to save other Senators from having to vote them down on the floor. Of this, I am now convinced. Only two names were considered allowable for Senate confirmation; Miers and Gonzales. When Bush met with Senators, he was reportedly told that these two names were the only ones that stood a chance to be confirmed, but Gonzales would face pointed questions about Abu Gharab, Gitmo, and the administration’s policy on torture. It would have been ugly, but he would have been confirmed against the added damage done by dejected a dejected conservative base, and liberal attacks on the President’s agenda. There would have also had to be a new search for an Attorney General, which would have been just as ugly.

Had Bush put up selections that would have been defeated, the chorus of ‘Lame Duck’ chanting coming out of Washington would have drowned out the President’s agenda. A defeat in the Senate would have also signaled to Congress that they were on their own, and no longer had to back up, support, or even listen to President Bush. They would have been free to play the political-calculation game that the Democrats have been playing for 6 years; avoiding tough votes that would be used against them in a future campaign.

So, what’s the bottom line?

The bottom line is that Bush did his best to give us what we want, in a way that will not hurt the prospects of the Conservative agenda. The primary thing that must be considered, is that the Congress can NEVER be put back in Democrat hands, for that would destroy all progress made up to now. Our day will come, but this aint it. If we had a Republican Senate made up of real patriots without the odd liberal in Republican clothing, things would be a lot better.

In Miers, Bush has clearly taken what he can get, and our best hope now is for another vacancy on the court before this administration’s term is up. The current makeup of the Congress will just not allow our agenda to be passed at this time without major sacrifices and pragmatic thinking to overcome the inherit weakness of having traitors in our midst.

It appears to me that Harriet Miers is the best CONFIRMABLE candidate for the Supreme Court at this time. This fact is not the fault of the President. Indeed it is OUR fault. It is us who have supported less than the best candidates for the Senate. We are responsible for Chaffee, Snowe, McCain, Graham, Lott, Frist and other persons of questionable courage. We should not be blaming Bush for our own votes. We selected the people that the President must rely upon to move his agenda forward. If they are losers, then he loses too.

Though they literally suck, we are stuck with these people because we must keep the majority to keep our agenda alive. There have been worse moments for us, but none would be worse than than the day we lose the Senate our House majorities. I now believe that although Bush disapointed many of us, that he did the very best he could do without destroying our momentum.

Yes, like Rush Limbaugh said, it was a choice made from weakness.

But the thing to remember, is that it was not Bush’s weakness, but our own, and that of the people we have elected to Congress that made this happen. Had they been strong, Bush could have selected anyone we wanted.

Because of what I now know about how and why Harriet Miers was selected, I withdraw my earlier statements against her, my statements suggesting anything less than my strong support of the President, and finally, my self imposed exile from Free Republic.

Pukin Dog is back, so deal with it.


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To: Pukin Dog

is that anything like an innocent bystander?


461 posted on 10/09/2005 5:34:44 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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To: Soul Seeker
And the answer is: they're all phonies.

Well, maybe not all...probably only 80-90%.

462 posted on 10/09/2005 5:34:48 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Pukin Dog

You're welcome. I have also noticed a substantial number of "loud" personal attacks made by your crtics, this suggests you're winning. Congratulations.


463 posted on 10/09/2005 5:35:25 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: Soul Seeker
Look, the ugly truth is if you want Senate discipline, then you need a head banger as President. Bush is too decent for that, and that may be his biggest flaw.

I wish Tom Delay would take on Kay Bailey for her Senate seat, and get in there and break some heads.
464 posted on 10/09/2005 5:35:26 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
I am amused at the title of your post. You should have announced that you have REJOINED those who support Harriet Miers. Since you wouldn't take our word for it, glad you had somebody in the know who laid it out more convincingly for you. Good to have you back.
465 posted on 10/09/2005 5:36:04 PM PDT by mountainfolk (God bless President George Bush)
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To: maryz
If he really has White House sources, they are as reliable as those who told him without question that Rudi Guiliani would be the Homeland Security Secretary.

I remain quite pleased that I got to see his national humiliation on Fox. HA!

466 posted on 10/09/2005 5:36:44 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Pukin Dog
Bush is too decent for that, and that may be his biggest flaw.

Well, that's one way of putting it.

And I'm basically in agreement on that point.

But, he's failing us when we need him most.

467 posted on 10/09/2005 5:38:20 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: kidd
Basically you are saying that the democrats are still in charge. I sadly say that I agree.

Which means that President Bush and Republicans deserve NOT to be in charge.

This is such a whinin' load! I am sick of it. True leaders do just that, they LEAD. They don't lead when they have majorities only - they LEAD to majorities. All this sign of weakness stuff is nonsense - it is not a sign of weak Republican Senators - it is a sign of a weak President - or a President that does not really care about conservative principles.

True leadership and strength are not revealed when things are going right - they are revealed when things are going wrong - and when you appear the most vulnerable.

I can't believe that conservatives (Rush included) don't get that. Sheesh, talk about pansies. LOL.
468 posted on 10/09/2005 5:38:31 PM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: Miss Marple
In fairness, Rudy said no.
469 posted on 10/09/2005 5:38:34 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Iwo Jima
His research is underwhelming, to be kind.

In what ways?

470 posted on 10/09/2005 5:38:48 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: Pukin Dog
You do have the choice not to be an ass about it.

No. You're wrong. For certain folks it's not a choice but a compulsion. I'll leave you to read that HOWEVER you choose to ;^>

And I'm glad you took my advice and didn't leave.

Good post. Of course I like it because it reinforces my own (always perfect) conclusions based on my extensive and flawless research....

471 posted on 10/09/2005 5:39:07 PM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Cboldt
I do paint FR North with a negative brush.

All because everybody is in a fit 'cause their cause celebre' is NOT being represented 'cause Bush did not nominate THIER favorite candidate.

A lot of hair pulling and gnashing of teeth over the simple issue of trying to get a nomination approved through a HOSTILE Senate.

Demeaning Bush and other freepers ain't helpin', and, to be honest, I'd rather segregate them to another website where they can spew their poison and unhappy thoughts to each other...

472 posted on 10/09/2005 5:39:12 PM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (Admn Mods: tiny, malicious things that glare and gibber from dark corners.They have pins and dolls..)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

The Clintons have done untold damage with their "politics of personal destruction". It makes my head spin when conservatives want to behave the same way in response. To win we HAVE to be different from the libs.


473 posted on 10/09/2005 5:40:21 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: safisoft
they LEAD to majorities.

Are you saying Bush has not done that? Has he not picked up seat in Congress on each election? He cant do it alone.

474 posted on 10/09/2005 5:40:24 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: safisoft
True leadership and strength are not revealed when things are going right - they are revealed when things are going wrong - and when you appear the most vulnerable.

Well said.

He does show some backbone when it comes to dealing with the "international community."

But when it comes to Democrats and RINOs, he folds.

475 posted on 10/09/2005 5:41:13 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Pukin Dog

Exactly.

So if someone isn't willing to get bloody to crack some discipline in the Senate like Delay, then the pitch to increase the numbers is meaningless. They'll all stab this man in the back. I see no point, then, at this time to support increasing a bigger majority to betray him and us and the American people. I'd rather let the losers go to defeat so the Dems get the proper blame for the enforcement of defeatism in the WOT, Tax hikes and Judicial obligarchy.

Electeing more people isn't the solution. Standing up to the bullies is.


476 posted on 10/09/2005 5:41:27 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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To: Iwo Jima
I know Beldar. He does not "rock." His research is underwhelming, to be kind.

Tell him I said hello. And whether he rocks or not he certainly put the time and effort required to research and offer an opinion on some actual cases argued by Miers. Something nobody here has done that I've seen.

Did you do it?

477 posted on 10/09/2005 5:42:11 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Pukin Dog
You're right on target with this. GWB is handing the conservative movement what they want - on a silver platter. The only problem is that a bunch of zeros who just want to drive up ratings for their radio shows don't seem to get it.

Here are two thoughts that should clear it up:

1) You don't need 5 great conservative minds on the supreme court. You only need 1 great mind and 4 like minded individuals who will go along with his opinions.

2) Can you say attorney-client privilege? Sure you can. The advantage of nominating your personal attorney is that most of your conversations with her don't need to be disclosed. She could have told GWB that, without a doubt, she would vote to ditch Roe v. Wade - and no one could force either of them to divulge the conversation.
478 posted on 10/09/2005 5:42:16 PM PDT by hedgie
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To: Pukin Dog

Go vomit on some other forum.


479 posted on 10/09/2005 5:43:05 PM PDT by Mini-14
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To: jwalsh07

Thanks for the link!


480 posted on 10/09/2005 5:43:34 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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