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I was wrong; so please join me in supporting Harriet Miers.

Posted on 10/09/2005 3:28:25 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

I decided to end my self-imposed exile from posting due to information that I received this past weekend from ‘a little birdie’ in Washington, which I subsequently had confirmed by another ‘insider’ if you can call him that.

You know I won’t tell, so don’t bother asking me for names, links, or further information. I trust these individuals, and have received accurate information from them before and shared it here on Free Republic. Of course, all are free to either accept or reject what I am about to share, but if you know anything about the Dog, I don’t change my mind often, and my only goal is to pass on information that can help support the Conservative agenda.

Issue 1.

Information was shared with me on Saturday, which described in no uncertain terms that Harriet Miers stands as the only nominee on Bush’s list which has any chance of confirmation by the Senate Judiciary Committee. The reasons for this are numerous, and would be embarrassing to the Conservative movement should one or many of the ‘stars’ who we hoped Bush would select be shot down in Committee, which again, if true, would be a certainty.

More than one of the persons we might have wanted made it clear to the President that they would not accept his nomination if selected. You can draw your own conclusions as to why, but the only hint I will provide is that data mining works too damn well these days. What we saw back when Clarence Thomas was nominated would seem like a walk in the park, compared to what would be done to some of our most popular jurists.

Our Democrat opponents have been quite busy, especially after John Roberts embarrassed them, searching for any information that would allow an open personal attack on a nominee. Sadly, many of the folks we wanted badly would have had their lives destroyed had they attempted confirmation to the bench, and wisely declined. There is no one among us who has not done (or had a family member do) things that we either regret, or would rather keep to ourselves. Because none of us are perfect, it is possible that had one of our choices been selected, we might have lived to regret that day for a very long time.

Issue 2.

Arlen Specter is in my opinion, a traitor to the Conservative movement. He has made it clear to the White House that he is determined to protect his legacy, by NOT supporting any name among those who might make it possible to overturn Rowe V. Wade. What that means, is that had Bush put up someone who might make us proud, Specter reneged on a PROMISE to support Bush’s judicial nominees in return for his, (and especially Rick Santorum’s) support for his re-election. This promise was made when there was strong consideration for removing Specter’s pending chairmanship in favor of John Coryn, or an extension to the term of Orrin Hatch.

The removal of Specter from the Chairmanship would have been disastrous, because he would have remained a committee member, and would have sided with Democrats against the President’s selections out of spite. So, why not simply remove Specter from the committee? That would have been really bad PR, considering Specter’s health issues at the time these decisions were being made.

One could argue that it might have been best to send up nominee after nominee, even if eventually defeated, but remember that O’Conner is only around hoping for a quick confirmation so that she can be with her ill husband. Bush was under the gun to come up with a confirmable candidate, or risk a Supreme Court not running at full strength as important rulings came under review.

I am told that Arlen Specter has gone back on every single promise he made when his chairmanship was still a question, and feels untouchable now that he is ill, because any punitive measures taken against him would be seen as ‘less than compassionate’ by the MSM and Democrats, who admittedly would have a field day, were Specter punished for his duplicity. The sad thing is that after “Scottish Law” or even the “Magic Bullet theory” that some think that anything that Arlen Specter says can be trusted. Sure, he supported Clarence Thomas, but does anyone believe that Specter would still be a Senator if he had not?

Issue 3.

Let’s face it; our Republican Senate is an embarrassment. From the weakness of Frist, to the petulance of the dude who ‘thinks he is leader’ McCain, down to his McCainiac compadre Lindsey (tinker-bell) Graham, to the nut from Mississippi who thinks he can actually get his leadership position back by actively rebelling against the President, we aint looking to good at all.

Our Republican Senate has as members at least 7 Democrats who could have never gotten elected as Democrats, who nonetheless support the Democrat agenda whenever they can get away with it, which unfortunately due to the weakness of Frist, is all too often. I find myself wishing Tom Delay would run for the Senate against Hutchinson, just so we can have someone in the Senate not afraid to break some heads to get things done. Why can’t we have a Republican Lyndon Johnson when we need one?

Because our Republican Senate is so weak, President Bush cannot rely on them for much. He could not have gotten majority support in this current Senate for any judicial nominee that would have made us proud. The usual suspects have made it clear to the President that any nominee who would have put their re-election prospects at risk would vote against that nominee. The bottom line, is that the Republican Senate is made up of too many who want the job, but not the work. The only job they see before them is that of getting re-elected to another six year term.

Luttig, McConnell, JRB, Owen, Alito, or anyone else you want to name, would have been defeated, and probably defeated in committee, in order to save other Senators from having to vote them down on the floor. Of this, I am now convinced. Only two names were considered allowable for Senate confirmation; Miers and Gonzales. When Bush met with Senators, he was reportedly told that these two names were the only ones that stood a chance to be confirmed, but Gonzales would face pointed questions about Abu Gharab, Gitmo, and the administration’s policy on torture. It would have been ugly, but he would have been confirmed against the added damage done by dejected a dejected conservative base, and liberal attacks on the President’s agenda. There would have also had to be a new search for an Attorney General, which would have been just as ugly.

Had Bush put up selections that would have been defeated, the chorus of ‘Lame Duck’ chanting coming out of Washington would have drowned out the President’s agenda. A defeat in the Senate would have also signaled to Congress that they were on their own, and no longer had to back up, support, or even listen to President Bush. They would have been free to play the political-calculation game that the Democrats have been playing for 6 years; avoiding tough votes that would be used against them in a future campaign.

So, what’s the bottom line?

The bottom line is that Bush did his best to give us what we want, in a way that will not hurt the prospects of the Conservative agenda. The primary thing that must be considered, is that the Congress can NEVER be put back in Democrat hands, for that would destroy all progress made up to now. Our day will come, but this aint it. If we had a Republican Senate made up of real patriots without the odd liberal in Republican clothing, things would be a lot better.

In Miers, Bush has clearly taken what he can get, and our best hope now is for another vacancy on the court before this administration’s term is up. The current makeup of the Congress will just not allow our agenda to be passed at this time without major sacrifices and pragmatic thinking to overcome the inherit weakness of having traitors in our midst.

It appears to me that Harriet Miers is the best CONFIRMABLE candidate for the Supreme Court at this time. This fact is not the fault of the President. Indeed it is OUR fault. It is us who have supported less than the best candidates for the Senate. We are responsible for Chaffee, Snowe, McCain, Graham, Lott, Frist and other persons of questionable courage. We should not be blaming Bush for our own votes. We selected the people that the President must rely upon to move his agenda forward. If they are losers, then he loses too.

Though they literally suck, we are stuck with these people because we must keep the majority to keep our agenda alive. There have been worse moments for us, but none would be worse than than the day we lose the Senate our House majorities. I now believe that although Bush disapointed many of us, that he did the very best he could do without destroying our momentum.

Yes, like Rush Limbaugh said, it was a choice made from weakness.

But the thing to remember, is that it was not Bush’s weakness, but our own, and that of the people we have elected to Congress that made this happen. Had they been strong, Bush could have selected anyone we wanted.

Because of what I now know about how and why Harriet Miers was selected, I withdraw my earlier statements against her, my statements suggesting anything less than my strong support of the President, and finally, my self imposed exile from Free Republic.

Pukin Dog is back, so deal with it.


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To: Pukin Dog
I just saw the President interviewed this morning. He sure didn't look like someone looking for a way to ditch her, but maybe he is a good poker player.

Well, if this happens (and I don't know your sources) we will be stuck with Sandra Day O'Connor, who really doesn't want to be there. I am certain that she won't be thinking kindly of conservatives, and neither will the President.

Talk about shooting off one's foot...nice job, pundits!

861 posted on 10/11/2005 7:18:26 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Pukin Dog
and I hope everyone will read it.

I did, and you are right. I watched everything that happened in the Senate this past summer and knew what Bush was up against. A bunch of cowardly weasels in HIS own party.

862 posted on 10/11/2005 7:18:28 AM PDT by painter (We celebrate liberty which comes from God not from government.)
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To: bitt; Pukin Dog

"enter Janice."



Exactly my thoughts.

Exit Harriet? ENTER JANICE!


863 posted on 10/11/2005 7:19:07 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: Howlin
Should I take that as you wanting off the ping list? lol.

Howlin, you should no by now that I really don't care what you think. Take it or leave it. I don't post to make friends.
864 posted on 10/11/2005 7:19:17 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
"He supports her because she's the only one who can be confirmed!"

"No, no, he doesn't support her at all because she can't be confirmed!"

You're beginning to sound like a fortune teller...I guess if you make enough predictions based upon your "source" you're bound to be right one way or the other.

865 posted on 10/11/2005 7:20:39 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Pukin Dog

You post UNSOURCED information and now you're going to attack me for questioning it?

Who are you that we should take your word for this?


866 posted on 10/11/2005 7:21:06 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Peach
Sure he could be wrong. I'm just passing it along. That is what I was told.
867 posted on 10/11/2005 7:21:15 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Howlin; Pukin Dog
I believe PukinDog....I believe him to be credible...

..and I'm not going off the deep end...

..I really truly hate politics!...I hate the games, the back biting, the innuendo, the reversals, the deception, the smears....

...I admit to being a political junkie, but I hate seeing absolute power corrupting so absolutely...

..and I'm not referring to President Bush or cabinet...

..but the hoops they have to go through and around...

..and the backstabbing by Frist, Lott, Lindsey Graham, McCain and others.

It's sick and disgusting.

If this happens, I hope the naysayers are happy......and that includes Krauthammer, Keyes, Kristol, Coulter, et al!

868 posted on 10/11/2005 7:22:01 AM PDT by Guenevere (God bless our military!...and God bless the President of the United States!)
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To: Howlin
There is a difference between questioning 'IT' and questioning 'ME'. You seem to like to make things personal. You have every right to discount the information, and there is no reason at all that you should 'take my word for it' as you say.

I'm just sharing. If you dont like it, dont read it.
869 posted on 10/11/2005 7:22:54 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
I'm just passing it along.

Actually, you're aren't just "passing it along."

"Passing it along" is mentioning it in an ongoing thread.

You're "updating" and "pinging" people to draw attention to what I think are your thoughts.

And, frankly, unless you can come up with something to back up you assertions, I think you should stop: you're only adding UNSOURCED information to the discussion.

870 posted on 10/11/2005 7:23:41 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Pukin Dog
There is a difference between questioning 'IT' and questioning 'ME'.

Don't insult my intelligence.

871 posted on 10/11/2005 7:24:19 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Pukin Dog; Howlin; Peach; Southack; Clemenza; kristinn; BillF; tgslTakoma; bitt; ...

"My understanding is that Bush will not put up anyone else."


Wait! I see an emanation of a penumbra of a nuance that we can pack the Senate with FReepers in extenuating circumstances.... Kristinn and BillF and Takoma and...



/gutless spineless RINO/CINO bitter sarcasm OFF


872 posted on 10/11/2005 7:24:35 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: Pukin Dog
You realize if she withdraws, Kristol will be insufferable. I sincerely hope you are wrong.

I'm going over to the Tony Snow thread to see if there's any scuttlebutt there.

873 posted on 10/11/2005 7:24:56 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: NittanyLion
A fortune teller?

Look, with anything I share here, I would run the risk of being wrong, accept for the fact that I am only passing along what I am being told. If the information turns out to be wrong, the source wont be used anymore.

I really cannot get why so many of these responses have to be about me. I am not the issue.
874 posted on 10/11/2005 7:25:18 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Miss Marple
How many times does the point have to be made that the squishy senators do NOT want a fight and won't vote with a conservative nominee, which means a LOSS, and increased prestige and perceived power for the democrats?

Ah, the old "deviation from Leader is a vote for Hillary!" line again. I'm surprised you waited until your second point to lay that marker.

Well, it happens not to be true as a straight-up proposition, for one thing. Certainly you are not making it true for McCain, Specter, Olympia Snowe, and the rest of the Lords Ordainers wannabe's. You're laying loyalty on us conservatives, not the RiNO's. How does that work, Miss Marple?

Specter's and McCain's posture in the Senate is a bluff -- and if it isn't, they'll wish it had been, if the people see them sending the entire GOP down to defeat so they could stand with the 'Rats on a litmus-test issue. That's exactly where we want RiNO's -- out in the open, exposed, betraying their voters. That, in the middle and longer run, is the only way to get rid of them. And forcing them to choose is the only way to break their "swing-vote block"/"power-broker" play. Choose. Choose now.

875 posted on 10/11/2005 7:25:45 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Pukin Dog

If true, sounds like just about the worst of all possible outcomes.

Just what I need today. More bad news.

Dan


876 posted on 10/11/2005 7:26:05 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Pukin Dog
PD, It's solely because you're the messenger...

..and they don't like the message.

I believe you.

I don't like the message either....but I believe this could be possible.

No doubt, the admistration is fed up to HERE! with all the carping and naysaying!

877 posted on 10/11/2005 7:27:26 AM PDT by Guenevere (God bless our military!...and God bless the President of the United States!)
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To: Howlin; Pukin Dog

Not put up anyone ELSE? That is ridiculous- there's no WAY he would do that.

This all seems a bit out there- though it's certainly possible Ms. Miers may decide this is too much- just heard Scalia say he wouldn't want to go through it again..not now.


878 posted on 10/11/2005 7:28:23 AM PDT by SE Mom (Keep an open mind; nothing will fall out.)
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To: Howlin; Pukin Dog
I've been reading the pro/anti/wait-and-see Miers posts for days and I have observed that the anti-Miers people have exhibited behavior just like the White House presstitutes. Pick, pick, pick. They've analyzed every noun and verb so they can mold the story to fit their position.

I hope pukin dog is wrong, sorry pukin. I would at least like the chance to hear her speak.
879 posted on 10/11/2005 7:29:30 AM PDT by hobson
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To: Howlin
Oh right, you NEVER ping anyone. Why am I even on YOUR ping list if pinging is now such a crime. Tell you what, you do your thing, I'll do mine, and we have no problem. Fair?

If you want to know MY thoughts, ask me. But until you do, you don't know my thoughts from a hole in your head until I tell you them. From where I stand, you just called me a liar.

I guess you are entitled to your opinion, no matter how stupid it might be. Please don't post to me anymore, and I wont post to you. Problem solved!
880 posted on 10/11/2005 7:29:38 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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