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Why the 'Dateline' Predators Were Not Charged (Pervs caught on video walk free)
MSNBC ^ | 11/09/2005 | Dan Abrams

Posted on 11/09/2005 1:30:41 PM PST by TCats

Abrams asks why men looking for underage sex were allowed to walk free. TRANSCRIPT - During "Dateline NBC's" recent hidden camera investigation, 19 were caught going to a suburban home where they thought they'd be meeting with sexually available teens. Some made a run for it when they went into the kitchen and saw NBC's Chris Hansen waiting.

One came into the house completely naked and sat down in the kitchen, where Hansen met him and kindly handed him a towel to cover himself up. A rabbi was so upset at being caught that he even seemingly went after Hansen.

But why aren't any of these guys being prosecuted?

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boiledfrog; child; dateline; molestors; perverts
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This article relates to the 'Dateline' sting operation aired last Friday and several other times since.

If you read the entire article you come away with a very bad feeling that the Authorities are loathe to prosecute these dangerous perverts. It is as though they are looking for any reason NOT to take any action. Very frustrating and depressing IMO.

1 posted on 11/09/2005 1:30:41 PM PST by TCats
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To: TCats

I saw this and wondered why these peopel were not arrested.


2 posted on 11/09/2005 1:31:32 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: TCats

From the story:

"police say no crimes were committed."

That's why.

You have to actually have been alleged to have committed a crime to get arrested.


3 posted on 11/09/2005 1:33:46 PM PST by Skooz (If you believe Adolf Hitler was a Christian, you are a blithering idiot.)
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To: Skooz

I don't get it. Cops use this kind of sting operation all the time, don't they?


4 posted on 11/09/2005 1:34:40 PM PST by L98Fiero
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"police say no crimes were committed."



I guess they never heard of the concept of "attempt".


5 posted on 11/09/2005 1:35:49 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: L98Fiero

I think the cops go through certain procedures to make sure the perp actually commits some sort of crime.


6 posted on 11/09/2005 1:35:54 PM PST by Skooz (If you believe Adolf Hitler was a Christian, you are a blithering idiot.)
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To: KC_Conspirator

Probably because it wasn't a police operation where they are careful to make sure that the charges won't be dismissed on technicalities. NBC, OTOH, is free to do whatever it likes to entice the men to come to the house.


7 posted on 11/09/2005 1:36:56 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Skooz
You have to actually have been alleged to have committed a crime to get arrested.

So, where's Ronnie Earle when he's really needed?

8 posted on 11/09/2005 1:37:07 PM PST by thulldud (The Democratic military vote is the REAL "Army of One".)
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To: TCats

Now, now now, we must not be judgemental here. Isn't that the lessons that the Clintons taught us?


9 posted on 11/09/2005 1:38:39 PM PST by Buffettfan
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To: L98Fiero
I don't get it. Cops use this kind of sting operation all the time, don't they?

Cops do.

When date line does it the perverts will scream entrapment. and they may be right.

10 posted on 11/09/2005 1:38:43 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: L98Fiero

In a normal sting, you bait the alleged perp to a point of no return. I sat on a jury regarding a prostituion sting case once and we debated this. How far is far enough to say a crime was committed if the sting ends before the crime actually takes place?

In my case, the offer for money was considered enough. In an underage sex sting, I don't know how far it has to go. Maybe "Dateline" should have had a skanky teen in a dimly lit room only to surprise the perp when he makes his move.


11 posted on 11/09/2005 1:39:39 PM PST by Tall_Texan (HOUSTON ASTROS - NATIONAL LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 2005)
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To: TCats
Didn't realize this happened in the same county i live in. I bet they all voted for Kaine...grrr

I think the last bit of the article is the key part. The former prosecutor said it's hard to tie the person to the computer. This is very true, but now we have the question of why a person in someone else's house. Wouldn't that still B&E, or trespassing? If he says he was invited that could tie him to the computer conversation.
12 posted on 11/09/2005 1:40:14 PM PST by tfecw (It's for the children)
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To: Skooz

I know of at least one similar case where I live that was prosecuted. Undercover setup also. Why both with these stings if they have no intention of prosecuting them?


13 posted on 11/09/2005 1:40:39 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: KC_Conspirator
I saw this and wondered why these peopel were not arrested.

Because it's a NBC show and not an actual police operation. Given Dateline's history of distorting facts, fear the day when the MSM can run a sting and arrest people. For now, the MSM must settle with only being able to humiliate folks on TV.

That said, I want to see these pervs put away too. That they prey on our children is beyond criminal...it's evil. There are police-run stings like this that do produce results. I hope to someday be on a jury that has a case like this.

14 posted on 11/09/2005 1:40:39 PM PST by Buffalo Bob
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I'm confused. I thought they said on the dateline show that the group that assisted NBC was organized exactly to do this type of sting and feed information to police for prosecution. And I thought they provided all the data to the police.

And I thought they said that it was a crime to merely send e-mails like the e-mails that were sent, even if the person you send them to is old enough, if it can be shown you thought they were younger (a law written obviously to allow police to conduct stings).

So I assumed they would be prosecuted under that law.

I told my daughter about that show just to re-inforce why we don't let her use chat rooms.

My wife and I watched that show "on and off" because we couldn't really stand the show but wanted to understand the issue. You would think that some of those people, having appeared on TV, would be experiencing some difficulty.

That one guy they caught twice was scary. I think he's the one who stripped in the garage.


15 posted on 11/09/2005 1:41:02 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: TCats
Not much difference between these pervs and the pervs in the California School system that want to ask 7 year olds whether they touch their privates too much.

For sure the 9th Circus would let these pervs walk.

16 posted on 11/09/2005 1:41:20 PM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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To: TCats

What the heck is Dateline thinking here? Why is the news department performing sting operations? That's attempting to make the news, not report it.

Oh well, I guess they had to do something now that they can't use explosives to blow up cars and pretend it was faulty gas tanks.


17 posted on 11/09/2005 1:41:36 PM PST by Moral Hazard ("Now therefore kill every male among the little ones" - Numbers 31:17)
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To: Graybeard58

"When date line does it the perverts will scream entrapment. and they may be right."

I was thinking about that. If Dateline invited them over, I think that would be entrapment. Same with the cops. They probably have to have the perp make the meeting arrangements with stated intent.


18 posted on 11/09/2005 1:42:45 PM PST by L98Fiero
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To: TCats

A much better "sting" would be for them to be shot with a .357, not just a camera!


19 posted on 11/09/2005 1:42:51 PM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Buffalo Bob

Hey Joe Friday would have arrested them and we would have heard the disposition of the cases by program end. That was real wan't it? Wasn't it?


20 posted on 11/09/2005 1:43:28 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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