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Stossel: Are American Kids Stupid?
NewsMax ^ | 1/7/06 | NewsMax

Posted on 01/07/2006 12:45:10 PM PST by wagglebee

Are kids in the United States being cheated out of a quality education?

In a special report airing this Friday on ABC's "20/20", John Stossel reveals the surprising truth.

American high school students fizzle in international comparisons, placing well behind other countries, even poorer countries like Poland, the Czech Republic and South Korea. American kids do pretty well when they enter public school, but as time goes on, the worse they do. Why?

School officials complain that they need more money, but as Stossel reports, most of the countries that outperform us spend less per student than we do. There are many factors that contribute to failure in school, but according to some, foremost is the government’s monopoly over the school system, which means that most parents don't get to choose where to send their children. In other countries, choice fosters competition, and competition improves performance.

Stossel questions government officials, union leaders, parents and students. He also examines how the educational system can be improved upon and reports on innovative programs across the country. "Stupid In America: How We Are Cheating Our Kids" with John Stossel airs Jan. 13 (10 to 11 p.m. ET) on ABC.

So are American students stupid? "No, we're not stupid ... but we just, we could do better," says one high school student. Another tells Stossel, "I think it has to be something with the school, 'cause I don't think we're stupider ..."

Stossel questions how much success there can be under a government monopoly school system. Kevin Chavous, a former Washington, D.C., city councilman and education reformer, tells Stossel the schools will never improve unless there is competition. "(With) all the well-intended designs and programs du jours, unless there is some competition infused in the equation, then they know they have a captive monopoly that they can continue to dominate."

School officials complain they need more money, but do they really? American schools spend about $10,000 per student, totaling $250,000 plus for a class of 25. Where does that money go? Stossel asks South Carolina school official Dolores Wright, "How much money would be right?" Wright answers, "Oooh. Millions. And it would really make it right. ... The more, the better."

Some say another stumbling block is that the public school system is a union-dominated monopoly. In Stossel's hometown of New York City, a teacher who sent sexual e-mails to his 16-year-old student was not fired because the union's rigid contract makes it very hard to fire any teacher, even dangerous ones. Only after six years of expensive litigation were they finally able to fire him. Joel Klein, chancellor of New York City's schools, tells Stossel, "I mean, we've had sex cases, acknowledged sex cases ... you can’t fire him." The teacher union has so many protections written into the contract to make sure principals don't fire unfairly, or play favorites, that principals rarely even try to jump through all these hoops to try to fire a bad teacher.

Stossel shows how well students do in Belgium's free school choice system -- because the money is attached to the student, the principal has to please the parents. And that makes a world of difference. ABC News gave part of an international test to students in Belgium and students in New Jersey. The Belgian students did much better than the New Jersey students.

Stossel offers that American kids deserve the benefits of competition, too, to give them access to schools that are as good as the other products and services we have in life. Yet the system does not allow parents and kids a choice -– in most states children can only attend the public school for which they are zoned. Kids of the privileged can escape the bad school because they can afford to move to good school zones, or attend private schools. Stossel visits South Carolina, whose Governor wanted to change that but got voted down by other politicians and public educators.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2020; abc; education; educationreform; highschools; hseducation; johnstossel; monopoly; nea; precedent; schoolchoice; stossel; stupidandlazy; teachersunion
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Perhaps if schools focused on teaching rather than leftist indoctrination this would be different. Better yet, get the federal government out of the education business altogether.
1 posted on 01/07/2006 12:45:12 PM PST by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

I agree on both points. DO IT TODAY!


2 posted on 01/07/2006 12:47:37 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: wagglebee

Wow.. a free market system.. I'm suprised this even made it on the air on ABC.


3 posted on 01/07/2006 12:48:31 PM PST by Almondjoy
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To: wagglebee

Don't ignore the culture at home. If the parents value education, the kids are more likely to do well.


4 posted on 01/07/2006 12:49:46 PM PST by Third Order
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To: wagglebee
Ahem.
5 posted on 01/07/2006 12:52:07 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: wagglebee
Add to your list DISCIPLINE. Kids are natural learners, if the environment is conducive to it. And, discipline would actually save money.

I've reached the point where sometimes I wonder if the government-controlled education doesn't strive to identify a small percentage of excellent students, and let the rest learn just enough to be good, un-questioning, dependent worker-bees.

6 posted on 01/07/2006 12:52:40 PM PST by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: Third Order
If the parents are vapid, pop culture loving sub-morons, the children are doomed.
7 posted on 01/07/2006 12:53:27 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: grania

That's what socialism does to you.


8 posted on 01/07/2006 12:53:30 PM PST by darkangel82
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To: satchmodog9

Doesn't help when the parents don't speak English either. Kinda hard for the small kids to practice reading when their parents can't help.


9 posted on 01/07/2006 12:55:00 PM PST by Third Order
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To: wagglebee

It is not just the kids. I teach adults on computer systems. We get side tracked on other topics. They adults do not understand current events or history to save their lives.


10 posted on 01/07/2006 12:55:08 PM PST by bmwcyle (Gael Murphy is a bug)
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you can’t fire him

I had a teacher in high school who was insane from day one. They never did fire her. 1 year after I graduated, she checked into the nut house.

11 posted on 01/07/2006 12:55:40 PM PST by staytrue (MOONBAT conservatives are those who would rather lose to a liberal than support a moderate.)
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To: wagglebee

American kids are not growing stupid. Their public educational system is failing.


12 posted on 01/07/2006 12:56:11 PM PST by Beowulf
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"I think it has to be something with the school, 'cause I don't think we're stupider ..."

Deliberate irony?

13 posted on 01/07/2006 12:57:14 PM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: Almondjoy
I'm suprised this even made it on the air on ABC

I'm not. Stossel has been a fixture there for at least a decade.

14 posted on 01/07/2006 12:58:22 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Proudly Christian since 2005)
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To: wagglebee
The Kansas City, MO school district lost its accreditation in 1999, and to the best of my knowledge, the district still hasn't met the standards to be completely acreddited by the state.

This means that no college in the country has to accept a highschool graduate from the KCMO school district. The "best part" of this is the fact that more money has been spent in the KCMO school district, due to a desegregation lawsuit 25 or so years ago, than any other school district in the country (to the best of my knowledge). The federal courts have ordered BILLIONS of dollars be spent, and there's been practicly no measurable imprivement in the last 25 years.

Mark

15 posted on 01/07/2006 12:58:41 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: grania
and let the rest learn just enough to be good, un-questioning, dependent worker-bees.

Unlike Simms, to the guvmint an educated consumer is NOT their best customer.

16 posted on 01/07/2006 12:59:12 PM PST by Dad2Angels
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To: wagglebee
The real story behind Jaime Escalante dovetails this piece by Stossel, one of the MSM's little appreciated treasures. Stand And Deliver Revisited is a must read for anyone concerned about our kids.
17 posted on 01/07/2006 12:59:14 PM PST by sono (Every purple finger is a bullet in the chest of terrorism.)
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To: Beowulf

The public school system must have failed. Look what we have in the House of Representatives and the Senate. Could it get any worse than that?


18 posted on 01/07/2006 1:01:00 PM PST by mulligan
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To: wagglebee

Students in the United States are not stupid. They are uneducated. They are ignorant of who they are and of where they are.


19 posted on 01/07/2006 1:01:03 PM PST by abclily
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To: wagglebee

They are the product of a public school education.


20 posted on 01/07/2006 1:01:09 PM PST by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and they're proud of it!)
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