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Bill Clinton, Historian? The former president pronounces history's verdict on Vietnam.
The Weekly Standard ^ | 01/19/2006 | Joel Engel

Posted on 01/21/2006 2:27:15 PM PST by neverdem

The former president pronounces history's verdict on Vietnam.

A MEMORIAL SERVICE for former senator Eugene J. McCarthy was held last Saturday at the National Cathedral in Washington, and former president Bill Clinton was there to eulogize him. This was not surprising: President Clinton will probably be present to eulogize every other boomer icon, whenever photographers are permitted, for as long as his health permits. What was surprising, though, was that Clinton credited the senator, who died last month, for turning the country against the Vietnam War--the operative word being "credited."

"It all started when Gene McCarthy was willing to stand alone and turn the tide of history," said the forty-second president of the United States.

But "to stand alone and turn the tide of history" is the kind of language generally reserved for the likes of Churchill's warnings about Hitler at a time when no one wanted to hear them. Or for Lincoln, risking everything to keep the United States united. Indeed, those could've been the words Clinton used for Rosa Parks, substituting "sit" for "stand" in his eulogy at her funeral. They're used for people whose actions are considered unambiguously good.

As far as I know, there has never been a national referendum in which America as a nation decided that President Kennedy's decision to send military "advisers" to South Vietnam as a bulwark against falling-dominoes communism was an error of historic proportions; that those who fought, and died, did so in vain; that the consequences of our leaving Vietnam without winning--millions slaughtered--were, at worst, morally neutral. That the war, in short, was unredeemable from first to last.

Those appear to have been Clinton's conclusions. After all, he had come to praise the senator, not to bury him. So is this what Senator McCarthy deserves for helping to turn much of the country against the Vietnam War?

Well, I'm acquainted with several Vietnam vets who feel strongly that they served their country well in a noble cause. And I wrote a book with and about a man whose heroic service in Vietnam as a gunship pilot was the proudest time of his life--no matter that he was black in what was then a white man's world.

I think it's unlikely that these veterans believe Senator McCarthy's public opposition to the war served anyone but the North Vietnamese--an opinion, in fact, shared by the North's commander, General Nguyen Vo Giap. Seeing that his forces could not beat the United States militarily, Gen. Giap considered negotiating a truce until the antiwar protests reached critical mass--soon after Senator McCarthy came out publicly against the war. From then, Giap wrote, he realized that he could lose every battle and still win the war. All he had to do was endure.

In Vietnam, the "American War" may be settled history. But in this country the Vietnam War isn't. Not now. Not soon. And when it is, the matter won't be settled by men who, like Clinton and me, could have fought in that war but demonstrated against it instead--and therefore have a vested interest in seeing that turned tide as a flood averted. The truth may be that we started one.

Joel Engel is an author and journalist in Southern California.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: billclinton; draftdodger; eugenemccarthy; vietnam; vietnamwar
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1 posted on 01/21/2006 2:27:17 PM PST by neverdem
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General Nguyen Vo Giap. Seeing that his forces could not beat the United States militarily, Gen. Giap considered negotiating a truce until the antiwar protests reached critical mass--soon after Senator McCarthy came out publicly against the war. From then, Giap wrote, he realized that he could lose every battle and still win the war. All he had to do was endure.

Which is exactly the strategy that fuels Islamic terrorists today. Eugene McCarthy, then, is the father of modern terrorism.

2 posted on 01/21/2006 2:29:52 PM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: neverdem
Now, before you Freepers start sounding off on Clinton's bona fides to speak on Vietnam, remember that he's just as much of a VN vet as any of us who wore slash-pocket fatigues. Yes, he was participant in the war, too.

Just not on our side.

3 posted on 01/21/2006 2:31:28 PM PST by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
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To: neverdem

Democrats vilify Heros, and Cantonize deamons, so what did you expect.


4 posted on 01/21/2006 2:32:02 PM PST by xcamel (Exposing clandestine operations is treason. 13 knots make a noose.)
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To: neverdem

We didn't lose in Vietnam, we listened to our left wing and walked away. And even when we were gone, the South could have held out, but once again, America listened to its left wing and stopped all material support, causing the South to fall. The American left has the blood of millions on their hands for allowing the devils from the North to enslave the south and turn Cambodia into a graveyard.


5 posted on 01/21/2006 2:34:14 PM PST by samtheman
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To: neverdem
"It all started when Gene McCarthy was willing to stand alone and turn the tide of history," said the forty-second president of the United States.

Shouldn’t that read, “It all started when Gene McCarthy was willing to stand alone and turn the tide of victory”?
6 posted on 01/21/2006 2:35:30 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott

You notice how the libs never talk about the two and a half million dead Asians under the North Vietnamese and Pol Pot? It's loose-leaf history.


7 posted on 01/21/2006 2:38:54 PM PST by kjo
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To: neverdem

Revisionist history, at best.


8 posted on 01/21/2006 2:40:35 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: neverdem

"We were well on our way to winning, when Eugene McCarthy suddenly stood up and helped the Communists win a great victory. What a man ... and ... uh ... HOW DARE YOU QUESTION MY PATRIOTISM?!?!"


9 posted on 01/21/2006 2:41:20 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: kjo
You notice how the libs never talk about the two and a half million dead Asians under the North Vietnamese and Pol Pot? It's loose-leaf history.

I heard Ollie Stone actually blamed them on those who made the movie 'Patton'.

But I agree with you, the lefties who undermined morale late 1960's are at the very least complicit in Pol Pot's rise to power.

10 posted on 01/21/2006 2:44:36 PM PST by Palpatine (Every single liberal is now an enemy of the republic!)
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To: kjo

Liberals seldom care about other races – except to use them for political advantage.


11 posted on 01/21/2006 2:44:36 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: neverdem

The bum did his utmost to dodge the draft.


12 posted on 01/21/2006 2:44:39 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: neverdem
McCarthy was a forerunner to the traitorous ba$tards in Congress today....where is he buried...I think I will toast him with a little scotch...after it has been run through my body..
13 posted on 01/21/2006 2:45:26 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver (Most Americans are so spoiled with freedom they have no idea what it takes to earn and keep it.)
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To: neverdem

When-oh-when will someone just slap his face?


14 posted on 01/21/2006 2:45:40 PM PST by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: neverdem

Clinton's policies in the 90s paved the way for 9/11.


15 posted on 01/21/2006 2:47:16 PM PST by Fair Go
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To: neverdem
Draft Dodger Marxist Heroes On Parade...from Red Square to Little Rock courtesy Slick Willy...and pals

imo
16 posted on 01/21/2006 2:49:43 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister.. but we knew what to do.. we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Calpernia; usmcobra; SandRat

Very good article.


17 posted on 01/21/2006 2:50:10 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom I love the DC Freepers & Protest Warriors)
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To: neverdem

I'd tell Billyboy to (I'll be a lady, but I really want to use the F word here) himself but he'd probably try it.


18 posted on 01/21/2006 2:51:34 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom I love the DC Freepers & Protest Warriors)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; DMZFrank; tet68; archy; El Gato; river rat; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Calpernia; ...

ping


19 posted on 01/21/2006 2:53:05 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: atomicpossum
Eugene (Charlie) McCarthy (Soviet Puppet)

The real villain is still Walter Cronkite...who pulled the commies loss after Tet 68 out of the fire...

The 'most trusted man on television' used that trust against our guys Vietnam when he declared the communist win and no hoe for a U.S. victory in Vietnam...

He was able to turn mainstream middle America against the war..

Kerry and Fonda got the kids to turn and Cronkite their tax paying parents..

imo
20 posted on 01/21/2006 2:53:56 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister.. but we knew what to do.. we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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