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'Speeches come and go, but policies continue' (Jim Wallis barf alert)
www.sojo.net ^ | 02/01/06 | Jim Wallis

Posted on 02/01/2006 5:22:57 PM PST by Terriergal

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To: Minus_The_Bear

Bump to that!


21 posted on 02/01/2006 6:52:11 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("There they go again...")
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To: NZerFromHK
we are launching an exciting six week church-wide course involving personal reading, small group studies and Sunday sermons entitled 40 Days of Purpose.

From that page. That's enough for me! (TO AVOID that place) But on top of that they seem to endorse... just about everything but fundamental Christianity.

22 posted on 02/01/2006 8:37:34 PM PST by Terriergal ("My conscience is captive to the word of God...here I stand. I can do no other. So help me God." ML)
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To: NZerFromHK; TommyDale

http://www.ccci.org/wij/

"God loves you and offers a wonderful plan for your life"

"Man is sinful and separated from God, therefore, he cannot know and experience God's love and plan for his life."

"Jesus Christ is God's only provision for man's sin. Through him you can know and experience God's love and plan for your life."


Right out of Warren's playbook. No wrath of God, eternal condemnation, hell... *this* is why I can't stand Warren. It's half truths that end up filling the church with people who think they believe but really haven't made a total commitment to Christ because they don't really understand the severity of the problem of our sin and God's wrath.


23 posted on 02/01/2006 8:45:03 PM PST by Terriergal ("My conscience is captive to the word of God...here I stand. I can do no other. So help me God." ML)
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To: NZerFromHK; TommyDale

This is a good line though from his "Thank God for America" page:

"Judging American Christianity by its televangelists is a bit like judging British culture by Benny Hill."


24 posted on 02/01/2006 8:47:18 PM PST by Terriergal ("My conscience is captive to the word of God...here I stand. I can do no other. So help me God." ML)
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To: NZerFromHK

His anti gay marriage page, upon a cursory examination, only seems to present what each 'group' in the argument believes, doesn't really say what his church or he personally believes...

He has a page on Israel and it doesn't *seem* virulently anti Israel...what did you find?


25 posted on 02/01/2006 8:51:24 PM PST by Terriergal ("My conscience is captive to the word of God...here I stand. I can do no other. So help me God." ML)
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To: Terriergal

I have seen him branding Israel as promoting apartheid blah blah blah. For instance, there is a page like this:

http://www.christchurch-virginiawater.co.uk/articles/alaqsa2001.htm


26 posted on 02/01/2006 9:06:57 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

spot on


27 posted on 02/02/2006 1:51:28 AM PST by son of caesar
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To: Terriergal

Benny Hill, Benny Hinn...what's the difference, anyway?


28 posted on 02/02/2006 5:36:12 AM PST by TommyDale
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"I believe there are still a lot of evangelical Christians (particular in Asia) believe Wallis is a genuine Christian and his points are biblical."

A lot of people thought Bill Clinton was a Christian because he carried a Bible around.

29 posted on 02/02/2006 7:37:38 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: TommyDale

Exactly!


30 posted on 02/02/2006 8:38:33 AM PST by Terriergal ("My conscience is captive to the word of God...here I stand. I can do no other. So help me God." ML)
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To: TommyDale

Well, nowadays, shallow appearances is what it's all about. Fill out your SHAPE questionnaire and voila, you're a mature believer! Take Class 301 and you're qualified to lead!


31 posted on 02/02/2006 8:39:25 AM PST by Terriergal ("My conscience is captive to the word of God...here I stand. I can do no other. So help me God." ML)
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To: Terriergal

...Or bow at the pastor's feet, rather than to God. Here's a new twist: A local pastor won't let any staffer quit, or he refuses to give a good recommendation. They can only leave on the pastor's terms, because he doesn't want to look bad...
Controlling? Yikes!


32 posted on 02/02/2006 11:08:03 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: TommyDale

Rick Warren is supposed to be on Nightline 2-3-06 discussing his takeover of Rwanda.


33 posted on 02/02/2006 8:43:44 PM PST by Terriergal ("My conscience is captive to the word of God...here I stand. I can do no other. So help me God." ML)
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They can only leave on the pastor's terms, because he doesn't want to look bad... Controlling? Yikes!

I hope you filled in our media friend on that one.

34 posted on 02/02/2006 8:44:32 PM PST by Terriergal ("My conscience is captive to the word of God...here I stand. I can do no other. So help me God." ML)
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To: Terriergal

Haven't heard anything in several days...


35 posted on 02/03/2006 5:56:30 AM PST by TommyDale
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