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Virginia County secretly removes Confederate flag from official seal
The Daily Press, Hampton Roads, VA ^ | March 2, 2006 | Associated Press

Posted on 03/03/2006 11:37:56 AM PST by Rebeleye

The removal of the Confederate flag from Amherst County's official seal has upset Southern heritage groups, who contend residents weren't told of the change. County officials acknowledge the image was quietly removed in August 2004 to avoid an uproar.

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AMHERST, Va. -- The removal of the Confederate flag from Amherst County's official seal has upset Southern heritage groups, who contend residents weren't told of the change.

They'll get no argument from county officials: They acknowledge the image was quietly removed in August 2004 to avoid an uproar.

"Any time you get a subject that broad, you can interrupt the entire county," said Leon Parrish of the Board of Supervisors.

Members of the Sons of Confederate Veterans and others opposed to the change have gathered hundreds of signatures protesting the flag's removal.

A small image of the flag was in the center of the seal, which was created in 1961 as part of the county's 200th anniversary. While celebrated by some, critics see the flag as a symbol of the South's segregated past and slavery.

The flag's removal came as the result of a resolution from the Board of Supervisors, according to David Proffitt, interim county administrator. A resolution does not require a public hearing.

"I don't think that the county should be promoting anything that's offensive to anyone," Parrish told The News & Advance of Lynchburg, in a story published Thursday. He said he proposed the resolution after receiving requests to do so from residents of his district.

Resident Leah Lovell said that she first discovered the flag was missing in April when she got her new county decal.

"That's the first thing I noticed," Lovell said. "It's part of our history. It affects thousands of people in the county."

At Dixie Outfitters, a Southern heritage memorabilia store in Madison Heights that prominently displays the flag on its storefront, county residents can sign petitions.

Brenda Beeton, who runs the shop with her husband, Dennis, said that she felt eliminating the flag from the seal took away a piece of Amherst County's history.

"When you change history, you burn a book, just like they did in Nazi Germany," Beeton said.

"You might as well live in Russia during the Communist regime."

Still, Parrish said that he and the board stood by their decision.

"People use the excuse that it's history, but if I want to know history, I go to the history books, not a symbol or a picture."

1 posted on 03/03/2006 11:37:57 AM PST by Rebeleye
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To: Rebeleye; sure_fine

Revisionist BS history by the PC-cowed crowd. They're probably pressuring them to add the sodomite-homo rainbow triangle, as a sign of good faith. Sad.


2 posted on 03/03/2006 11:43:10 AM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (Borders, Language, Cultureā„¢)
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To: Rebeleye

So, it took almost two years before anyone even noticed? I'd guess it's not such a big deal, then.

For pete's sake...there must be more important things to deal with there in Virginia, I'd think.


3 posted on 03/03/2006 11:44:04 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Rebeleye

"People use the excuse that it's history, but if I want to know history, I go to the history books, not a symbol or a picture."

Somehow I doubt this guy has opened a history book since he was in school.

According to this man's logic, perhap we ought to do away with every monument, museum or artifact of our nations past. Hey as long as it's written in a history book, we don't need any tangible links to the past. Sad to see that the people of this county have elected someone with such a small mind and lack of pride.


4 posted on 03/03/2006 11:49:01 AM PST by XRdsRev (The Democrat Party - Keeping Black folks on the "Plantation" since 1790)
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To: Rebeleye
What most people don't know is that they replaced it with the hammer and sickle.
5 posted on 03/03/2006 11:54:13 AM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque
Naw, time for the rest of Virginia to rejoin the Union and come to grips with the 21st Century.
6 posted on 03/03/2006 11:55:04 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: Rebeleye

Wow. I grew up there and I never even knew there WAS a Confederate flag on the county seal.

I'm ashamed at my home folks being spineless about this. This is very sad...as much the fact that they removed it without telling anyone as anything else. If they wanted to remove it, they needed to have a public debate about it instead of sneaking around like this.

This county, by the way, is about 20 miles northwest of Appomattox, where General Lee surrendered. A lot of Amherst men fought and died in the Army of Northern Virginia (I believe they furnished a battery that served under Pickett at Gettysburg).

}:-)4


7 posted on 03/03/2006 11:58:19 AM PST by Moose4 ("I will shoulder my musket and brandish my sword/In defense of this land and the word of the Lord")
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To: stainlessbanner

Ping for you, suh.

}:-)4


8 posted on 03/03/2006 11:58:54 AM PST by Moose4 ("I will shoulder my musket and brandish my sword/In defense of this land and the word of the Lord")
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To: Rebeleye
the ethics and reasonings of such dweebs as the HS teacher in Colorado , that compares the Confederate Battle Flag to the nazi flag , are spreading . Further , individuals such as these seek to brainwash their impressionable students ,and propagate their attitudes in the classroom . They will loudly cheer moves such as this.
9 posted on 03/03/2006 12:12:03 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: muawiyah

Ouch. You are really asking for it in this crowd. LOL.


10 posted on 03/03/2006 12:15:04 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: dinoparty
Asking for what?

Everybody (usually) has 8 Great Great Grandfathers. So I had 8 of 'em, and 7 served the whole War in the Union Army. The 8th changed sides right after Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation.

My people won ~ those people lost. It's time for them to get over it.

11 posted on 03/03/2006 12:17:52 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

Damn Yankee ! ;-P


12 posted on 03/03/2006 12:23:43 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: muawiyah

Wow, that's quite a lineage. I had to search and search just to find ONE gggg uncle who served in the Civil War (Union). I guess I must come from a long line of draft dodgers. LOL.


13 posted on 03/03/2006 12:26:40 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: MineralMan

So, it took almost two years before anyone even noticed? I'd guess it's not such a big deal, then.

For pete's sake...there must be more important things to deal with there in Virginia, I'd think.



Applause to you....standing ovation!!!!! I agree with you that if it took two years to notice it was gone then it was not needed. I think they need to worry about issues that are important to everybody. I know that some people don't agree with this, BUT come on 2 YEARS and wow something is missing...I don't know what, but there is something different....LOL


14 posted on 03/03/2006 12:32:31 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Don't think so ~ most of them spoke German as their first language (because that was what was spoken in the area), and a couple might have used French (also widely used in their time). At least one of them was born in South Carolina but was driven North by bigots who didn't believe he should have anti-slavery beliefs.

Then there's the fellow whose cousin or uncle was convicted for violating the Runaway Slave Act ~ I think he got involved in the Jay-Hawk War before the big one.

One of these poor fellows married a woman whose family owned Southern Maryland (for the most part) and just about everyone who lived there. They had 8 to 10 kids ~ but while he was away at war she ran off with a slacker who rode with Morgan's Raiders. His name was Cheney ~ and he ended up taking her to live with his family in Lincoln, Nebraska.

So, you just never know who's a Yankee and who isn't.

15 posted on 03/03/2006 12:35:35 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: dinoparty
Regarding genealogical searches ~ it's sometimes very difficult to track down great great grandparents because the USA underwent tremendous expansion right when they were young men and women.

Then, too, we forget that these people had friends, cousins, and so forth, and if we can find them, we can sometimes find our own ancestor, particularly since there were many fewer people in the country 150 years ago.

As an example, one of my GGGrandfather's took pioneers West. He belonged to a peculiar church. Bill Clinton's GGGrandfather also took pioneers West. Billzo's own father belonged to that same peculiar church. So, did they know each other, work together, live in the same towns, etc?

Working backwards through Billzo's family (Blythe) it's theoretically possible to find out where my own GGGrandfather lived and what he did. (NOTE: I have more information on Billzo's family than he does because we had to do exactly that.)

Interestingly enough, his (my GGGrandfather) only son became a business partner of R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr.'s Great Grandfather.

Small doggone world if you ask me ~ and it only took us 50 some years to find those little nuggets.

16 posted on 03/03/2006 12:45:05 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

Seriously, I don't know of any of my ancestors who fought in the Civil War, of whom were in America were all Northerners (none of my relatives were in the South at that time, the last one, a North Carolina-born Scots-Irish having moved to Illinois from Tennessee after serving under General Jackson at the Battle of New Orleans). The earliest direct ancestor of mine in the U.S. was one of those paid Hessian mercenaries hired by the British during the Revolution, of whom made a rather bold decision to stay in America after the war was over. Most of his comrades who also chose to stay were not so lucky, as the majority of them were hunted down and murdered by New Jersey patriots following the war.


17 posted on 03/03/2006 12:50:35 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: muawiyah
Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War
18 posted on 03/03/2006 12:50:40 PM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: Rebeleye
which was created in 1961

This tells us everything we need to know.

As in Georgia and South Carolina, segregationist Democrats raised the Confederate Battle Flag over government buildings as a way to signal resistance to desegregation and the civil rights movement. I'm glad that Amherst County chose to come out of the cold and join the rest of the country in accepting the conclusion of the civil rights movements.
19 posted on 03/03/2006 12:56:07 PM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: taxesareforever
What most people don't know is that they replaced it with the hammer and sickle.

You'd be surprised how many people defend slaveholding because "at least the slaves were treated well by their masters." That's the epitome of socialism.
20 posted on 03/03/2006 12:57:56 PM PST by HostileTerritory
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