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'Gospel of Judas' Called An Authentic Fabrication
The New York Sun ^
| April 7, 2006
| BRUCE CHILTON
Posted on 04/07/2006 6:38:55 AM PDT by presidio9
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posted on
04/07/2006 6:38:57 AM PDT
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presidio9
To: presidio9
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posted on
04/07/2006 6:43:23 AM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
To: presidio9
Very interesting. Thanks for posting this. Certain quarters won't be satisfied until they've reduced Jesus to a common rabble-rouser. Once we've dumped the "Son of God" notion, we can get on with multiculturalism in earnest.
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posted on
04/07/2006 6:46:26 AM PDT
by
hershey
To: presidio9
Mary Mapes long lost ancestors........
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posted on
04/07/2006 6:46:29 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(I must not fear.Fear is the mind-killer.Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.....)
To: Red Badger
Laughed so hard my minidachs fell off my lap.
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posted on
04/07/2006 6:47:10 AM PDT
by
hershey
To: BenLurkin
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posted on
04/07/2006 6:49:14 AM PDT
by
formercalifornian
(One nation, under whatever popular fad comes to mind at the moment, indivisible...)
To: hershey
Very interesting. Thanks for posting this. Certain quarters won't be satisfied until they've reduced Jesus to a common rabble-rouser. Once we've dumped the "Son of God" notion, we can get on with multiculturalism in earnest. Just witness how enthralled the idiot press and those who follow them are, still, over The DaVinci Codes.
Katie Couric brought them up this morning, in a discussion about this silly Judas gospel.
One of the participants had to point out to her that "Katie, the DaVinci Codes are a work of fiction."
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posted on
04/07/2006 6:49:57 AM PDT
by
sinkspur
(Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
To: BenLurkin
As another poster noted why Gnostics are not Christians:
Gnostics (no matter what their stripe, or how Christian they seemed at first glance, and the philosophy predates the Christian faith) believed: The God of the world was more or less evil because he made things out of matter.
The True God is only spirit, and each level of being, is less spiritual and more contaminated by matter.
That you have to have the secret gnosis to get out of the matter realm and into the spirit realm.
The Christian sounding gnostics didn't believe that Jesus came here in a real body, because that would mean he was contaminated with Matter.
It gets weird and interesting, and farther and farther away from what most people think of as Christianity the more you get into it.
So why should we really care. There are a lot of gnostic texts out there, easy to get hold of. They have no more validity as scripture to Christians than the Golden Ass does, except that they use a framework of Christian names to spout off what has a lot in common with the Golden Ass and other mystery religions like the Orphic traditions.
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posted on
04/07/2006 6:51:38 AM PDT
by
FormerLib
("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
To: presidio9
Authentic Fabrication....does that mean Real Fake
To: presidio9
National Geographic places their own desires for confirmation of THEIR presuppositions ahead of actual fact. That's why they got caught with their pants down a couple of years ago when they trumpeted a fossil that showed a flying dinosaur. They wanted to believe it was true, so they did. They got burned big time and issued a rather haughty mea culpa.
Too bad they didn't learn their lesson.
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posted on
04/07/2006 6:54:01 AM PDT
by
Kieri
(Dump "Dangerously Incompetent" Debbie, Support Keith Butler for Senate)
To: formercalifornian
Translation of a copy of a fake............
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posted on
04/07/2006 6:54:31 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(I must not fear.Fear is the mind-killer.Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.....)
To: presidio9
Actually, they know the name of the Coptic monk who "found" the original manuscript in the early 4th century: Ratericos Danilos. It was revealed as a forgery because it was created using a stylus that hadn't been invented until AD 378.
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posted on
04/07/2006 6:54:47 AM PDT
by
Antoninus
(I don't vote for liberals regardless of their party affiliation.)
To: Military family member
Real Fake, as in those damn Rolex junk spam e-mails..........
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posted on
04/07/2006 6:55:15 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(I must not fear.Fear is the mind-killer.Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.....)
To: Antoninus
Ratericos Danilos.....Who had a secretary named Marius Mapeus.............
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posted on
04/07/2006 6:56:46 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(I must not fear.Fear is the mind-killer.Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.....)
To: presidio9
It's as legitimate as "The Hitler Diaries."
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posted on
04/07/2006 6:57:21 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
To: presidio9
In its release, National Geographic repeatedly states that it has "authenticated" the document
Post the original and let the pajamahadeen authenticate the typewriter font :-)
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posted on
04/07/2006 6:58:34 AM PDT
by
silverleaf
(Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
To: presidio9
Great article. No one in the MSM covering this story has mentioned it could have been forged way back in the third or fourth centuries or how they are certain it was written by Judas.
It's just accepted as the Gospel truth. Amazing!
To: presidio9
I don't think any of the New Testament is derived from first century documents or is an original.
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posted on
04/07/2006 6:59:05 AM PDT
by
Dog Gone
Tempest in a teacup
Mountain out of a molehill
There are lots of addtional "gosepels"
see www.earlychristianwritings.com
The Bible in its current form is the Word of God. Always has been always will be.
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posted on
04/07/2006 7:01:58 AM PDT
by
ejroth
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