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Are California, Nevada and Arizona really THEIR land...
KCET Ch 28 Program "The US Mexican War" ^ | Robert W. Johannsen

Posted on 05/02/2006 3:48:34 PM PDT by persephone35

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To: Michael Goldsberry
Yep!

 

 

  (See tagline...)

41 posted on 05/02/2006 4:36:27 PM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Repeat San Jacinto!)
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To: Myrddin
A copy of that legal, binding treaty must either still exist or there must be a record of it.

I'd like to see them try to dispute a legal document.

Oh wait, what am I saying? They have no respect for the law and so would have no respect for a binding legal document.

(And they want us to respect them??)

42 posted on 05/02/2006 4:36:38 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (OUR schools are damaging OUR children)
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To: Ptaz
...tagline...
43 posted on 05/02/2006 4:39:29 PM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Repeat San Jacinto!)
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To: persephone35

It's obvious they know nothing about history. Some think they are like the Jews in 1938 Nazi Germany.


44 posted on 05/02/2006 4:41:21 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: calex59

Wow, thanx for the history lesson!


45 posted on 05/02/2006 4:47:48 PM PDT by Mrs. Shawnlaw (No NAIS! And the USDA can bugger off, too!)
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To: Mrs. Shawnlaw
Link

The Mexican War between the United States and Mexico began with a Mexican attack on American troops along the southern border of Texas on Apr. 25, 1846. Fighting ended when U.S. Gen. Winfield Scott occupied Mexico City on Sept. 14, 1847; a few months later a peace treaty was signed (Feb. 2, 1848) at Guadalupe Hidalgo. In addition to recognizing the U.S. annexation of Texas defeated Mexico ceded California and , New Mexico (including all the present-day states of the Southwest) to the United States.

46 posted on 05/02/2006 4:54:24 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: persephone35

Spain stuck a flag in N American and tried to claim the Continent... then Mexico think it all there... (by the same logic the US own the whole Moon... and maybe some day all of Mars)... Well the US didn't get all the UK N American claim else we have Canada or a a good chuck of it (remember 54'40" or fight...we settled for the 49' parallel)...


47 posted on 05/02/2006 4:55:21 PM PDT by tophat9000 (If it was illegal French Canadians would La Raza back them? Racist back there race over country)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

they will incur into ... Wyoming, ...

No way, no how! I aint given up WY and they can't make me!! I'm Keepin It!! Now UT, thats a different story, they can talk w/ the utes on that one.


48 posted on 05/02/2006 4:58:57 PM PDT by Mrs. Shawnlaw (No NAIS! And the USDA can bugger off, too!)
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To: Mrs. Shawnlaw

Caramba, Gracias para su apoyo.


49 posted on 05/02/2006 5:04:11 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: bert

Actually Congress debated keeping all of Mexico. It was decided to allow Mexicans to have what is present day Mexico and keep only what is now the Southwest for the following reasons:

Language barrier
Culture very different than US population (worry about assimilation)
Widespread Poverty
Civilian unrest (people in Mexico had been having one revolution after another before the Mexican war)

We simply discarded the parts we did not want, it seemed it would be more trouble than it was worth to keep all of Mexico. At the time it was a wise choice, but if they continue to be bad neighbors we could always reconsider. Retaking Mexico would not take much effort.


50 posted on 05/02/2006 5:05:15 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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To: angelanddevil2
So was it annexed after winning a war, or was it bought?

"Yes"

51 posted on 05/02/2006 5:09:36 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

"rational thought"

"Pot of gold at the end of the rainbow"

"The golden fleece"

"Free Internet access"

"zero APR"


52 posted on 05/02/2006 5:10:05 PM PDT by VOATNOW1
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To: Publius6961
--Analyzing an event 150 years old by today's Political Correctness is naive at best, fraudulent at worst.--

--Correct--if this silliness were to continue, the Angles will have to give something back to the Saxons (or vice versa) --I don't recall who claimed to have won on that one--

53 posted on 05/02/2006 5:11:30 PM PDT by rellimpank (Don't believe anything about firearms or explosives stated by the mass media---NRABenefactor)
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To: Falcon4.0
Actually, the Spaniards invaded the indigenous Inca lands, fought, then fornicated. Today, we have their progeny marching in the streets of Boston, claiming it is their land.
54 posted on 05/02/2006 5:13:17 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis
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To: the anti-liberal
I'd like to see them try to dispute a legal document

That and negating "Manifest Destiny" is all their warped brains can think about. It was a great insult to the strutting, preening and ridiculously proud Spaniards, er, Mexicans that the new kids in the Americas dumped them so quickly and decisively. They just haven't gotten over it.

Search on Reyes Tijerina and Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo for some of the beginnings of the current insurrection.

55 posted on 05/02/2006 5:13:54 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: goodnesswins; AFreeBird; SandyInSeattle; Cyman
Good afternoon.
"....."give it back."

I want to thank you, AFreeBird and SandyInSeattle for advocating giving my home away to another country.

You should be careful what you wish for. Most peoples who are forced to leave their home eventually try to take one of the neighbor's homes. It's easier to do when they speak your language and have a history with the 2nd Amendment.

It's too late, Cyman, the invaders are already sneaking into your state.

Michael Frazier
56 posted on 05/02/2006 5:16:11 PM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: rimmont
Mexico in the 1840's was a new country whose legitimacy, and hold on lands it claimed in the north was tenuous and not entirely legitimate. The United States cleverly took advantage of that situation.

The had their independence from Spain for over 20 year and had moved from a constitutional republic to a autocratic dictatorship under the military rule. The vast majorities of the "Hispanic" people of those sparsely populated territories that became part of the the United States welcomed the Americans. They had little or no loyalty to Mexico.

Even with that, the excuses for the congressional declaration of war were shaky, at best. Congress and the "administration" took advantage of an opportunity. Saying that, a legitimate reason would have likely occurred before long.

57 posted on 05/02/2006 5:19:17 PM PDT by Ditto (People who fail to secure jobs as fence posts go into journalism.)
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To: persephone35

And .. quite obviously they have been lied to for years.


58 posted on 05/02/2006 5:20:15 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-by Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: Michael Goldsberry; SortaBichy
"Si usted desea leer este mensaje en inglés, aprieta uno."

That one's easy, maybe because I've heard it so many times: "Be careful - plate is hot"

59 posted on 05/02/2006 5:22:39 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Meep Meep)
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To: TXnMA
Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Repeat San Jacinto

{Smile} I just moved to Texas from Virginia last year and I'm so glad to be here!!!! My hubby and I went to San Antonio back in March to see the Alamo for the first time. It truly feels like home here!
60 posted on 05/02/2006 5:28:38 PM PDT by Ptaz (Take Personal Responsibility--it's not fun, but it's the right thing to do.)
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