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U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols (telling the Mexican government)
Daily Bulletin ^ | 5/9/2006 | Sara A Carter

Posted on 05/09/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by IrishMike

While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are. According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants -- and if and when violence is used against border crossers.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.

"It's not a secret where the Minuteman volunteers are going to be," Mario Martinez said Monday.

"This ... simply makes two basic statements -- that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type, and that if an alien is encountered by a Minuteman or arrested by the Minuteman, then we will allow that government to interview the person."

Minuteman members were not so sanguine about the arrangement, however, saying that reporting their location to Mexican officials nullifies their effectiveness along the border and could endanger their lives.

"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time," said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. "It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.

"They just basically endangered the lives of American people."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; falsestory; getaclue; gwot; illegalimmigration; illegals; incorrectstory; loudobbs; mexicans; mexico; minutemanproject; minutemen; moonbatbarking; nationalsecurity; notaccurate; nutcases; saraacarter; saracarter; wot
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To: La Enchiladita

Cute!

BTW, John Gibson (who I also emailed this a.m.) is going to be talking about this NEXT he said!!


841 posted on 05/09/2006 2:33:11 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: holdonnow; Laura_Ingraham; Jeff Head; Czar; DoughtyOne; HiJinx; Spiff; bluerose; Grampa Dave; ...



842 posted on 05/09/2006 2:34:30 PM PDT by devolve ((----Bimboly Geldfoyle - bicoastal or another thespian?))
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To: IrishMike

Should have a report on Fox News shortly, telling of this practice...


843 posted on 05/09/2006 2:35:32 PM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: devolve

Perfect combination!!


845 posted on 05/09/2006 2:36:35 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: La Enchiladita

Should have a report on Fox News shortly...


846 posted on 05/09/2006 2:36:46 PM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: griswold3

Your references in support of your claim are saying more and more about you...the SOuther Poverty Law Center indeed. I still call the claim absolute, unadulterated, Bravo Sierra.


847 posted on 05/09/2006 2:39:01 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: HipShot
Attention:

Those of you who are calling for revolution, secession, violence, lynching, impeachment, etc, will no longer be posting to FR. Sheesh! It's Marxist propaganda. Get a grip people!
848 posted on 05/09/2006 2:39:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: ovrtaxt
A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.

Shouldn't the US Customs and Border Protection people be more interested in the rights of American's rather than Mexican's? Who pays their salaries anyway?....hmmm. Now there's a question....
849 posted on 05/09/2006 2:39:34 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you, Jim.


851 posted on 05/09/2006 2:45:58 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: nicmarlo; Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin

I will rely on this thread for reports, if any, as I am without cable. Thanks.


852 posted on 05/09/2006 2:46:33 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: IrishMike

I just saw a teaser for tonight's Lou Dobbs show. Lou says he is going to cover this story tonight.


853 posted on 05/09/2006 2:48:41 PM PDT by surely_you_jest
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To: surely_you_jest

Yep

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/


854 posted on 05/09/2006 2:51:05 PM PDT by BradtotheBone
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To: surely_you_jest

Lou Dobbs is a Bush hating Marxist tool. You're being used.


855 posted on 05/09/2006 2:51:51 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: clawrence3
The Administration is working to end "catch and release" which has been in place long before Bush's term

Justifying what has gone on for the past FIVE YEARS because "it's always been done wrong" is not a good enough excuse for previous cuts on detention beds refusal to close the border. Having said that, glad to hear that he's increasing funding for detention beds. But, he's finally scrapped SCAAP (State Criminal Alien Assistance Program), after numerous previous attempts.

(BTW, my children used to give excuses when they were little, thinking that would mean they wouldn't suffer the consequences for their OWN bad behavior.)

856 posted on 05/09/2006 2:56:16 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Geez. I can't believe that our government is so twisted.


857 posted on 05/09/2006 2:56:43 PM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: churchillbuff; newcthem; GrandmaPatriot; kinoxi
Also see:

Civilian Border Patrol Operations Reported to Mexico [BY US BORDER PATROL]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1629207/posts

Tancredo Rips Government's Spying of Minutemen
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1629359/posts

858 posted on 05/09/2006 2:59:47 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: rolling_stone

May glasses are NOT rose-colored - here are the "forced removals" from Table 40, per year (with the +/- increase or decrease):

1981 17,379
1982 15,216 (-2,163)
1983 19,211 (+3,995)
1984 18,696 (-515)
1985 23,105 (+4,409)
1986 24,592 (+1,487)
1987 24,336 (-256)
1988 25,829 (+1,493)
1989 34,427 (+8,598)
1990 30,039 (-4,388)
1991 33,189 (+3,150)
1992 43,671 (+10,482)
1993 42,542 (-1,129)
1994 45,674 (+2,132)
1995 50,924 (+5,250)
1996 69,680 (+18,756)
1997 114,432 (+44,752)
1998 173,146 (+58,714)
1999 181,072 (+7,926)
2000 186,222 (+5,150)
2001 178,026 (-8,196)
2002 150,542 (-27,484)
2003 189,368 (+38,826)
2004 202,842 (+13,474)

It was decreasing in years 2001 and 2002, but has increased ever since. I said I was hoping that 2005 stats will show more than 200,000 "forced removals" - and somehow that makes me an OBL ; )


859 posted on 05/09/2006 3:00:58 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: DumpsterDiver

Tancredo was just interviewed on John Gibson about this.


860 posted on 05/09/2006 3:03:15 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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