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Experts Find Rare Romani DNA In Norwich Anglo Saxon Skeleton
24 Hour Museum ^ | 5-12-2006 | Sarah Morley

Posted on 05/13/2006 10:43:55 AM PDT by blam

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1 posted on 05/13/2006 10:44:01 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Wow! They found DNA from a Michigan rock band? They must have been on tour, or something.


2 posted on 05/13/2006 10:48:42 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.

Romani (Gypsy) History

My mother always told us that Gypsies steal babies. Maybe the Anglo-Saxons stole one back, huh?

3 posted on 05/13/2006 10:48:49 AM PDT by blam
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Sailors?


4 posted on 05/13/2006 10:50:22 AM PDT by marron
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Romani = Gypsy

But calling it Gypsy DNA is not PC.


5 posted on 05/13/2006 10:50:31 AM PDT by San Franistan
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Romani = Gypsy

But calling it Gypsy DNA is not PC.


6 posted on 05/13/2006 10:51:04 AM PDT by San Franistan
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7 posted on 05/13/2006 10:52:58 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: blam

I presume that by Romani is meant the people also known as gypsies. As they were nomadic traders, tinkers and horsemen I don't think that finding the gene there is so surprising. Since it is mitochondrial DNA, then it means a woman is involved, so family travel makes sense.

Some time ago I read that the Romans used troops along Hadrians Wall from far in the East, Sythians or Sogdians I think it might have been.


8 posted on 05/13/2006 10:53:42 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: blam

Has Mike Nifong charged anyone yet?


9 posted on 05/13/2006 11:01:49 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Here to Help)
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To: gleeaikin
I'm not up on the archaeological remains in Norwich. Have they ever found graffiti saying "ROMANI EUNT DOMUS" there?

Or ROMANI ITE DOMUM for that matter?

10 posted on 05/13/2006 11:03:32 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: blam

The Byzantine Empire hired English warriors as mercenaries during that period. They also hired others like Russians, leading eventually to the Orthodox religion taking root in Russia.


11 posted on 05/13/2006 11:19:37 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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From your link The history of the Roma is one of continuous struggle and persecution. Since their entry into Europe, the Roma have been outlawed, enslaved, hunted, tortured, and murdered. From the time of the Slobuzenja (Abolition of Romani Slavery) in 1856, to the present day, the Roma have fought for their just social and human rights, largely to the deaf ears of world governments and an indifferent public.

No mention of the fact that their culture is based on the belief that they are the superior race and that this justifies their con jobs and stealing anything that is not nailed down.

12 posted on 05/13/2006 11:25:36 AM PDT by OSHA (Liberal Utopia: When they shoot people going over the wall.)
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To: blam
EXPERTS FIND RARE ROMANI DNA IN NORWICH ANGLO SAXON SKELETON

What? they finally linked a white guy to the Duke "rape" case?

13 posted on 05/13/2006 11:26:27 AM PDT by tophat9000 (If it was illegal French Canadians would La Raza back them? Racist back there race over country)
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To: blam
The DNA was found in an 11th century young adult male skeleton, and with the first recorded arrival of the Romani gene in this country put at 500 years later, historians may need to re-think the ethnic mix of the city's early population.

People got around early on more than most people think. OTOH, one skeleton does not a population make.

14 posted on 05/13/2006 11:41:09 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
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To: martin_fierro

could you add me to the DNA ping list? THANKS!


15 posted on 05/13/2006 11:43:04 AM PDT by kalee
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To: gleeaikin

The mitochondrial DNA could not have come from Roman troops. Troops are male.

You get mitochondrial DNA from females, only.

All males and all females get mitochondrial DNA from their mothers, but no males pass it on.

On the other hand, no females carry Y Chromosome DNA.

The reason archeologists study mitochondrial DNA is that it's much more resistant to decay than nuclear DNA.


16 posted on 05/13/2006 11:53:55 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: blam

Maybe the gene's found in other populations besides Romani. They've only been testing DNA for a couple of decades.

What are the odds that a mutation would only occur once?


17 posted on 05/13/2006 11:59:17 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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People got around early on more than most people think. OTOH, one skeleton does not a population make.

No, but with luck it'll make a research grant.

18 posted on 05/13/2006 12:26:08 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: CobaltBlue
No, no, no.

Mitochondrial DNA is inherited through the mother's line. We all have mitochondria and we all have mitochondrial DNA that traces back through maternal bloodlines. A roman soldier could have had a mother or other female antecedant who was Romani.

19 posted on 05/13/2006 12:35:49 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: blam

There is no such thing as "Romani" - they're talking about gypsies. They have nothing to do with Rome, and it's a deliberate misassociation with "Romania". Repeat: Gypsies.


20 posted on 05/13/2006 12:43:14 PM PDT by billybudd
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