Posted on 05/16/2006 2:52:45 PM PDT by Libloather
Got to agree with Soul Seeker.
The President's comments in the past make it clear that he's ok with lax immigration. The reaction to the minutemen confirm that.
The President may have increased men on the Border but the results over the last 6 years are that they have been stunningly ineffective. It's hard to believe that they could have been that ineffective without a wink and a nod from the top.
When one solitary bust of Illegals in ohio makes national news, something is seriously wrong.
When they talk about putting guards on the border but not letting them patrol. They are telegraphing their intent not to take this serious.
If the Senate 'compromise' passes, illegals will have more rights than legals. A revolt maybe near...
What an ignorant comment. Mexicans are more pro-family than Americans in general. That's been part of the problem with illegals. They insist on bringing the entire family with them over time.
You need that river for what - exactly?
Ewwww - I know. Let's find a compromise. How about a wall smack-dab in the middle of the Rio? That satisfies everyone - no?
"Sharks with Frikin Laser Beams!"
That wasn't a reaction to the Minutemen. Look at the actual interview.
The President may have increased men on the Border but the results over the last 6 years are that they have been stunningly ineffective. It's hard to believe that they could have been that ineffective without a wink and a nod from the top.
What's the proof of this?
When one solitary bust of Illegals in ohio makes national news, something is seriously wrong.
With the media coverage. This subject hasn't been a hot issue in the news, ever. Only now with the May Day crap has it been. So why be surprised that only now is it being reported on, when no one's cared--certainly not the MSM.
When they talk about putting guards on the border but not letting them patrol. They are telegraphing their intent not to take this serious.
But it hasn't happened and we're already complaining about it.
Bush is a man who sticks by his principles. If he is going to do this, he's going to do it. In the past 24 hours he's gone from 0 to 6000 NG on the ground and the promise of a wall.
I'm just not getting this whole "We haven't talked about this for six years but we want it NOW!" trend.
This is not going to be good enough for some on FR. If the President had said he was going to have built a 12 ft high concrete wall a thousand mile long, you would hear, THAT"S NOT GOOD ENOUGH, it should be 14 feet high and 3000 miles long.
that deserves a lol
I wasn't talking about the interview. I was talking about reactions to the minutemen in the past.
"What's the proof of this?"
Look Around, it's obvious.
So why be surprised that only now is it being reported on, when no one's cared--certainly not the MSM.
It's not being reported, because there is nothing to report on. Nobody is making arrests, because nobody thinks the system will actually do anything.
"Bush is a man who sticks by his principles. If he is going to do this, he's going to do it. In the past 24 hours he's gone from 0 to 6000 NG on the ground and the promise of a wall. "
I'd like to believe this, but on this one issue, he has failed us. A change would be nice, but I'm not convinced given his total disregard of this duty prior till now. And his speech still has a lot of mealy mouth talk in it. I agree with Joseph Farrah's analysis of Bush's speech.
"But it hasn't happened and we're already complaining about it. "
They did say they wouldn't be allowed to patrol. So why shouldn't we take them at their word. They've told us clearly they are going to limit the activities of the 6000 to surveillance and road and barrier construction. Why shouldn't we believe them and complain if that is insufficient? How can you say that? You've been on FR since at least 2004 and you know it's been discussed. Granted the country was a little distracted in 2001-2003 with the War on Terror, but even then there were a lot of people point to the borders and yelling "SECURITY BREACH".
"I'm just not getting this whole "We haven't talked about this for six years but we want it NOW!" trend."
You have been on FR since at least early 2004 and you haven't seen this discussed?!!! Since 2001 there have been a ton of folks pointing to the border and yelling "SECURITY BREACH".
How long have the minutemen been operating? How long do you think we were fed up before they started?
It's not a case of not talking about it for 6 years. It's a case of talking about it and seeing nothing done for 6 years. In fact the problem has gotten noticeably worse.
I don't believe I addressed Mexicans or Mexican families. You did.
As a matter of fact, I addressed Americans and American familes.
Chill out.
You're going to sit there and say that immigration was anything more than an occasional discussion around here? You're expecting anyone to think this level of "debate" has been going on since Bush entered office?
I've been here since 2001 and that's bull. Now and then someone would post an article, and that's it.
Look Around, it's obvious.
OK, no facts required--we "just know".
Yeah, ok.
It's been more than a casual discussion. But there were other pressing issues, such as the War. However, it's reached this level, both because we are finally fed up, and because foreigners are now demonstrating on our soil and making demands, and because our Congress keeps tossing around the idea of granting both amnesty and citizenship to all of these illegals.
BTW this evening the Senate reached a compromise and it's expected to pass tomorrow -- they've decided along with everything else it's okay to allow felons to stay in the USA.
The Hagel-Martinez Bill calculates out to about 196 million immigrants over the next 10-20 years. Our current population is 300 million, so we will grow by 2/3 -- all Hispanic.
Atomic possum is in charge.........
Because according to Bush's speech, we can turn back 6 million, but 12 million is an impossible task.
According to Bush's speech, we can turn back 6 million, but 12 million is an impossible task.
According to Bush's speech, we can turn back 6 million, but 12 million is an impossible task.
Dr. Evil: Here's the plan. We get the warhead, and we hold the world ransomed for.....One MILLION DOLLARS!!
No.2: Ahem...well, don't you think we should maybe ask for *more* than a million dollars? I mean, a million dollars isn't exactly a lot of money these days. Virtucon alone makes over nine billion dollars a year!
Dr. Evil: Really?
No.2: Mm-hmm.
Dr. Evil: That's a number. Okay then. We hold the world ransom for.....One hundred..BILLION DOLLARS!!
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