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Boadicea May Have Had Her Chips On Site Of McDonald's
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 5-25-2006 | Nick Britten

Posted on 05/24/2006 8:59:01 PM PDT by blam

Boadicea may have had her chips on site of McDonald's

By Nick Britten
(Filed: 25/05/2006)

Archaeologists believe they may have found the final battle site for the warrior queen Boadicea - on the site of a McDonald's restaurant.

Having spent her life in fierce resistance to one empire - the Romans - her last stand is thought to have been overshadowed by another one, this time corporate.

Having found ancient artefacts where new houses and flats are due to be built, experts have now asked the local authority to allow a full excavation of the area.

Little is known about Boadicea's last fight, or the way in which she died, but it is widely believed to have taken place in the West Midlands. The site unearthed by experts, in Kings Norton, Birmingham, lies close to the line of a Roman road, and fits many of the few facts available.

The Queen of the Iceni tribe, the ancient native Britons, had a final showdown with Governor General Suetonius Paulinus in 61 AD. Her 200,000 soldiers were annihilated by just 10,000 legionaries, ending the British rebellion.

One of the most popular theories is that afterwards Boadicea killed herself by drinking from a poisoned chalice.

According to the Roman historian Tacitus, prior to battle Paulinus deliberately protected his legions by choosing a hilly area virtually surrounded by trees with a single opening.

Experts from Birmingham city council believe the Parsons Hill site matches this description with its landscape and mature woodland, and artefacts found in the dig indicate that Roman soldiers may have been there. The area of land next to the McDonald's is also near the Metchley Roman fort.

Cllr Peter Douglas Osborn, a conservationist, said: "I find it very exciting to think we may unearth something so intriguing right here in Birmingham. It would be bizarre if it is discovered Boadicea's last stand was next door to a McDonald's, but the site does fit the only descriptions we know of.

"It is on the route to Metchley, the Roman fort discovered in Birmingham and, if only because of this, it represents a real possibility.

"It is even more encouraging when you consider the evidence and well-preserved remains unearthed from trial trenches. The location itself matches previous historical descriptions of the battle site in that it is a hilly area surrounded by trees. It would be priceless if we found that this historic battle was fought outside a McDonald's fast food joint. I also hope the dig may unearth some evidence of what name the Romans gave Birmingham."

Dr Mike Hodder, Birmingham city council's senior archaeologist, added: "There's no doubt it's an important archaeological site. Whether it has anything to do with Boadicea is nearly impossible to prove, but there are certainly Roman remains found there."

A spokesman for McDonald's said: "Obviously if a site next to one of our restaurants is found to be where Boudica fought her last battle then we would be quite excited. However, we'll have to wait and see what the archaeologists find."

Boadicea was married to King Prasutagus, who ruled over the Iceni - the tribe occupying East Anglia - but under Roman authority. Despite the king, in a flawed attempt to curry favour with the Romans, making Emperor Nero a co-heir to his estates, Nero provoked Boadicea by forcing her people to endure conscription and pay heavy taxes.

The final outrage came when Prasutagus died in AD60 and the Romans annexed her dominions, flogging her in public and murdering and raping her family.

Boadicea vowed to take on Nero and his legions and other tribes from all over south-east Britain joined her. After the Roman towns of London, St Albans and Colchester were burned to the ground, troops were called down from Lincoln as Boadicea's warriors headed north and the armies clashed in the Midlands.


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To: Salamander
Hey now. I married one, and have stayed that way for almost a dozen years.

On a totally unrelated subject, I also have "a thing" for British sports cars and motorcycles. I must find tempermental natures intriguing.
41 posted on 05/27/2006 11:47:22 PM PDT by 308MBR ( Somebody sold the GOP to the socialists, and the GOP wasn't theirs to sell.)
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To: 308MBR

"I must find tempermental natures intriguing."

Then you'd find me endlessly fascinating....;D

I had a Triumph Bonneville [completely original] back in 1994.
An amazing little bike.
Never had any Brit sports cars though, just German.
The first, a Porsche 924 [over-rated, IMO] and a VW Scirocco.
How I loved that Scirocco.
Both were 'temeramental' cars but the Porsche took it to near sociopathic extremes.

My congratulations on being fortunate enough to snag a worthy wife....:)


42 posted on 05/28/2006 4:53:11 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Salamander
LOL!

Yet another gem of wisdom on FR!

43 posted on 05/28/2006 5:02:58 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Politicians are like diapers. They need changed often, and for the same reasons.)
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To: Thumper1960

Ah...I see ye'er a gun-totin' construction worker, now, are ye?

An' can ye out-wrassle a wild-eyed, red-headed she-devil, too?....;D


44 posted on 05/28/2006 5:10:39 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Salamander
Aye! I believe so!

Nothing ventured; nothing gained!

45 posted on 05/28/2006 5:16:11 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Politicians are like diapers. They need changed often, and for the same reasons.)
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To: Thumper1960

Ooooo!


I just felt a frisson....;]



[meet me under the oak at midnight....bring a broadsword]



Red Sonja


46 posted on 05/28/2006 5:18:19 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Salamander
Of course, it was a pleasureable sensation, that frisson, eh?

A broadsword and leather girdings, a cleansing battle will be glorious!

;->

47 posted on 05/28/2006 5:27:45 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Politicians are like diapers. They need changed often, and for the same reasons.)
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To: Thumper1960

Uh...I have to go take a cold shower now.....;D


48 posted on 05/28/2006 5:34:30 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Salamander
LOL!

I'll remain mum.

;->

49 posted on 05/28/2006 5:37:29 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Politicians are like diapers. They need changed often, and for the same reasons.)
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To: Thumper1960

;-]


[whutta a way to start a morning]


50 posted on 05/28/2006 5:41:47 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Salamander

Or, end a day and begin a night.


51 posted on 05/28/2006 5:45:01 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Politicians are like diapers. They need changed often, and for the same reasons.)
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To: Thumper1960

I yield.
You win.


[now have a little mercy on me, ya brute!].....LOL!



52 posted on 05/28/2006 5:49:02 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Salamander
Request granted.

Though, one must always be alert where a she-devil is concerned.

FRegards!

53 posted on 05/28/2006 5:51:01 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Politicians are like diapers. They need changed often, and for the same reasons.)
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To: Thumper1960

Now I'll have to go do housework to burn off the tension.....:-P


[you brute, you]



54 posted on 05/28/2006 5:55:02 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Salamander
Whew - sure is getting hot in here.

*sweating profusely*
55 posted on 05/28/2006 6:01:50 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Support American sovereignty - boycott employers of illegal aliens)
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To: Salamander

Never sheath the broadsword....even for a duster!


56 posted on 05/28/2006 6:04:41 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Politicians are like diapers. They need changed often, and for the same reasons.)
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To: Salamander

FYI, I have been "handling" one for almost a dozen years now. The trouble is that half of our kids act just like her.


57 posted on 05/31/2006 10:32:58 AM PDT by 308MBR ( Somebody sold the GOP to the socialists, and the GOP wasn't theirs to sell.)
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To: 308MBR

"The trouble is that half of our kids act just like her."

You say that like it's a *bad* thing....:)


58 posted on 05/31/2006 10:44:08 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: USNBandit

She didn't have 200,000 "soldiers". She had 200,000 warriors.

The Romans had the soldiers and in a formal pitched battle, the odds favor soldiers.


59 posted on 05/31/2006 10:47:02 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: PzLdr

So, the Romans didn't slaughter "civilians" in their land-grab in Britain? I'd hardly call her force of troops thugs.

Patriots was more like it. The Romans were the thugs here.

And regardless of the outcome of that battle, the odds were stacked against the Britons. Eventually the Romans would have triumphed due to better training, logistics, strategy and numbers.

But she gave it a good try.


60 posted on 05/31/2006 10:50:00 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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