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Ken Lay has died (heart attack)
Reuters | 7/5/06

Posted on 07/05/2006 7:03:35 AM PDT by ElRushbo

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To: Inspectorette

Bush would not have pardoned him. But now your brother in law is in the enviable position that he can say "Bush would have pardoned Lay, if Lay had not died," and you won't have any proof to the contrary.


201 posted on 07/05/2006 8:01:53 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: F15Eagle

Did you mean to reply to me? I believe you and I agree on this.


202 posted on 07/05/2006 8:02:13 AM PDT by KevinB
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To: VRWCmember

Golfing buddy of Beelzebubba, eh? You'd never know that from the crAP report I just read, the reporter made a point of mentioning that President Bush would call him "Kenny Boy".
RIP


204 posted on 07/05/2006 8:03:02 AM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: wideawake

Yes he committed fraud, not murder or child molestation. He hurt many people. There were plenty of good hard working people at Enron, who lost everything they had becuase they couldn't sell when the prices started going down. Lay sacrificed the retirement and financial security of thousands of his employees and their families, so that he could buy another vacation home and continue his affluent life style.

I have no problem with someone making a lot of money. If they earn it good for them. Ken Lay didn't earn his fortune, he stole it from his employees.


205 posted on 07/05/2006 8:03:46 AM PDT by ga medic
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To: Aquinasfan
(5) Injustice to the wage earner. [Deut. 24:14-5; Jas. 5:4]

He created far more jobs than were lost in the Enron collapse.

206 posted on 07/05/2006 8:04:18 AM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: KevinB
Your view might be different if you were one of the stockholders who lost their life savings because of the lies that Ken Lay told.

That's true - irresponsible people often blame anyone but themselves for their misfortunes.

I have a wife and kids and if I ever were stupid enough to invest all my family's money in a single growth stock and I lost all that money, I'd be looking around for scapegoats too.

207 posted on 07/05/2006 8:04:48 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: proudmilitarymrs
How right you are!!

Some believe he is not even dead. Pathetic.

208 posted on 07/05/2006 8:04:58 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: BipolarBob
The employees could not take the money out of Enron stock to diversify it.

Wrong.

A company rule which coincidentally did not apply to the ones making the rule (the execs).

No company can prevent employees from selling vested shares of stock - that's complete hooey.

209 posted on 07/05/2006 8:06:38 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: rahbert
Drudge is saying he killed himself - no details...

Self inflicted heart attack?

210 posted on 07/05/2006 8:07:23 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: wideawake
Ken Lay did not destroy many lives - he destroyed one life: his own. Anyone who claims that Ken Lay destroyed his life is a loser with zero sense of personal responsibility

Yes !

211 posted on 07/05/2006 8:07:28 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: ElRushbo

I gotta tell you, I don't think Ken Lay was this monster they made him out to be. An inept CEO.......yes! He had no business holding the reins of this company and he let others play him like a cheap fiddle, further proof he should have been replaced........so many lives ruined and a big corporation that employed thousands, bites the dust and a sad ending for Lay's family. But, that's just me and the way I see it.


212 posted on 07/05/2006 8:07:30 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: ga medic
We agree that Ken Lay was a thief - I just don't see theft as being the most heinous act a person can commit.

Lay deserved to spend the rest of his natural life in prison.

213 posted on 07/05/2006 8:08:21 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake

So, those sad stories on Nightly News, those people were just idiots?


214 posted on 07/05/2006 8:08:46 AM PDT by John W
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To: laotzu

Your post one minute after conspiracy theory of 'Arkancide' posted here at FreeRepublic.

That is funny.
________

I'm glad I wasn't the only one to think so.


215 posted on 07/05/2006 8:09:01 AM PDT by dmz
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To: wideawake

Dear wideawake,

"Note to slow-on-the-uptake investors: the stock market is risky."

Actually, the stock market is more volatile than risky. At least when you don't stupidly put all or most of your money in the shares of a single company.

The problem is that a lot of the shareholders who were left holding the bag weren't as much greedy as they were stupid. They didn't know any better. They figured, "Hey, the company's doing great, I have umpteen hundreds of thousands of dollars of stock, why would I invest in other investments that wouldn't do as well?"

Nonetheless, I don't think that Mr. Lay was responsible for their stupid behavior.


sitetest


216 posted on 07/05/2006 8:09:19 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Inspectorette

"Well, now my liberal brother-in-law won't be able to yark about 'Bush is gonna pardon the SOB'"

No, he got a "pardon" from a higher power.


217 posted on 07/05/2006 8:09:19 AM PDT by RouxStir (No islam, know peace.)
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To: wideawake
If losing a job or losing money ruins your life, then you're not made of very stern stuff. Money is replaceable and jobs are replaceable.

Tell that to someone 62-65 years old and just lost their pension and life savings. You lost a job once and got over it? Not quite the same thing. These people were lied to again and again. Rules were made to prevent them from diversifying.

218 posted on 07/05/2006 8:09:24 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I looked in my rearview mirror.)
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To: TexasCajun
Really? ...or wishful thinking?

That is something you wish on few people. Ken Lay does not fit the category.

219 posted on 07/05/2006 8:09:41 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: RouxStir

Why did Clinton's buddy at Global Crossing get ooff? Didn't he do the same thing?


220 posted on 07/05/2006 8:10:07 AM PDT by ground_fog
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