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Passengers Sued Over Imams' Removal
AP ^ | March 30, 2007 | PATRICK CONDON

Posted on 03/30/2007 1:45:40 PM PDT by rawhide

Edited on 03/30/2007 2:08:22 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Six Muslim men removed from a plane last fall after being accused of suspicious behavior are suing not only the airline but the passengers who complained — a move some fear could discourage travelers from speaking up when they see something unusual.

The civil rights lawsuit, filed earlier this month, has so alarmed some lawyers that they are offering to defend the unnamed "John Doe" passengers free of charge. They say it is vital that the flying public be able to report suspicious behavior without fear of being dragged into court.

"When you drive up the road towards the airport, there's a big road sign that says, `Report suspicious behavior,'" said Gerry Nolting, a Minneapolis lawyer. "There's no disclaimer that adds, `But beware if you do that, you might get sued.'"

The six imams were taken off a Phoenix-bound US Airways flight on Nov. 20 while returning home from a conference of Islamic clerics in Minneapolis.

Other passengers had gotten nervous when the men were seen praying and chanting in Arabic as they waited to board. Some passengers also said that the men spoke of Saddam Hussein and cursed the United States; that they requested seat belt extenders with heavy buckles and stowed them under their seats; that they were moving about and conferring with each other during boarding; and that they sat separately in seats scattered through the cabin.

The plane was cleared for a security sweep, nothing was found, and the jet took off without the imams.

The Muslim clerics say they were humiliated, and are seeking unspecified damages from the airline, the Minneapolis airport and, potentially, the John Does.

Omar Mohammedi, the New York City attorney for the imams, said the intent is not to go after passengers who raise valid concerns about security. But he suggested some passengers may have acted in bad faith out of prejudice.

"As an attorney, I have seen a lot of abuse by the general public when it comes to members of the community creating stories that do not exist," Mohammedi said.

He denied the imams were talking about Saddam, and said that their seats were assigned and that they requested extenders because their seat belts didn't fit.

Some fear such lawsuits could weaken what has become the first line of defense against terrorism since Sept. 11 — an alert public. At airports and train and subway stations around the country, travelers are routinely warned to watch for unattended bags and suspicious activity and to notify authorities.

Ellen Howe, spokeswoman for the Transportation Security Administration, which oversees security at all U.S. airports, would not comment specifically on the imams' lawsuit. But she said the TSA counts on passengers to help the agency do its job.

"`See something, say something' is certainly a common mantra in this day and age," Howe said. "We would always remind passengers to be both vigilant and thoughtful."

In reaction to the imams' lawsuit, Congress has taken steps to legally protect passengers who report suspicious activity. Earlier this week, the House approved an amendment to a rail transportation security bill that would make passengers immune from such lawsuits, unless they say something they know is false.

Mohammedi said he has not yet identified any of the complaining passengers. An airport police report listed a passenger and two US Airways employees as complaining about the imams. All three had their names blacked out before the lawsuit was filed by invoking a Minnesota law that allows it, airport spokesman Pat Hogan said.

Nolting said he has been contacted by several potential John Does.

Passenger Pat Snelson, who lives in a Twin Cities suburb, said he and his wife were not among those who reported suspicious behavior. But he said his wife noticed the men praying, and he saw them moving around the cabin while others were boarding.

"These guys were up to no good," Snelson said. "We think the airport people did a real good job in taking care of it."

Bomb-sniffing dogs examined the men and their baggage. FBI agents and other federal law enforcement officers questioned the men for several hours before releasing them.

Billie Vincent, a former director of security for the Federal Aviation Administration, said he is troubled by the mere attempt to identify the passengers who raised concerns.

Airline passengers "are your eyes and your ears," said Vincent, who now owns an aviation security company. "If attorneys can get those names and sue them, you put a chilling effect on the whole system."


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Mohammedi said he has not yet identified any of the complaining passengers. An airport police report listed a passenger and two US Airways employees as complaining about the imams. All three had their names blacked out before the lawsuit was filed by invoking a Minnesota law that allows it, airport spokesman Pat Hogan said.

Nolting said he has been contacted by several potential John Does.

Passenger Pat Snelson, who lives in a Twin Cities suburb, said he and his wife were not among those who reported suspicious behavior. But he said his wife noticed the men praying, and he saw them moving around the cabin while others were boarding.

"These guys were up to no good," Snelson said. "We think the airport people did a real good job in taking care of it."

1 posted on 03/30/2007 1:45:41 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

Shoot the suspicious Muslims first, ask questions next.


2 posted on 03/30/2007 1:47:48 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: rawhide

Did the legislation protecting complaining airline passengers pass Congress and if so, is it retroactive to this case?


3 posted on 03/30/2007 1:47:55 PM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's' pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: rawhide
"These guys were up to no good,"

They still are. Terrorism can be legal maneuvers too, just ask ACLU.

4 posted on 03/30/2007 1:48:31 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: rawhide

If we are going to get sued it may as well be for something good like a good old-fashioned a$$beating.
I wonder how they'll like that!


5 posted on 03/30/2007 1:48:59 PM PDT by conserv8ive1
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To: rawhide

Guess which airport to avoid like the plague.


6 posted on 03/30/2007 1:50:38 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: rawhide

I hope those passengers countersue them, for what I don't know or care, but I hope they defend themselves.


7 posted on 03/30/2007 1:50:40 PM PDT by MissEdie (Liberalscostlives)
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To: Peach

Yes, I read that the legislation protecting passengers passed. Sorry, I do not recall WHERE I read it.


8 posted on 03/30/2007 1:50:49 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: rawhide

Bush should just pardon the passengers, make a big announcement about it. The 'rats will go nuts so what. The president's pardon power is almost absolute (ask 'Toon)


9 posted on 03/30/2007 1:50:58 PM PDT by eartotheground (Rodham delinda est.)
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To: rawhide
Who were the victims? Why the Islamic hijackers, apparently.


10 posted on 03/30/2007 1:50:58 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: rawhide
I'm flying for the first time in a long time tomorrow from Los Angeles to DC and I've decided that if I notice anyone acting suspiciously I'm going to report it right away. They can sue my a$$ off for all I care.
11 posted on 03/30/2007 1:51:13 PM PDT by The Blitherer ("What the devil is keeping the Yanks?")
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To: conserv8ive1

Gun control means a steady hand.


12 posted on 03/30/2007 1:51:21 PM PDT by unkus
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To: rawhide

"By psychopolitics our chief goals are effectively carried forward. To produce a maximum of chaos in the culture of the enemy is our first most important step. Our fruits are grown in chaos, distrust, economic depression and scientific turmoil. ... With it you can erase our enemies as insects... Use the courts, use the judges, use the Constitution of the country, use its medical societies and its laws to further our ends. ... And bring to Earth, through Communism, the greatest peace Man has ever known." -- Lavrenti Beria, Lenin University, in a 1933 address to a group of American/Marxist Psychology Students.


13 posted on 03/30/2007 1:51:41 PM PDT by Lexington Green (Every American killed by a Mexican truck is a homicide committed by our leaders..)
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To: rawhide

If these passengers told the truth, I can't imagine any possible basis for a lawsuit. But, that isn't what these imams and their dirtbag lawyers have in mind. Any claim should be dismissed on a quick motion, but even that could cost a few thousand dollars. Who is going to risk that?

We need some legislation, like the anti-SLAAP suit legislation, that provide for quick dismissal and shift attorney fees to the plaintiffs.


14 posted on 03/30/2007 1:52:03 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: rawhide
They need to have a class action lawsuit on the part of the passengers against the imams for delaying the flight through their bizarre behavior and tack on punitive fees for emotional distress. If they want to go around suing people trying to protect this nation they should be subject to at least the same amount of court pressure.
15 posted on 03/30/2007 1:52:17 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: rawhide

16 posted on 03/30/2007 1:52:20 PM PDT by seastay
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To: Peach
It's making it's way through Congress...

Flying imams bill in House

They'd better step on it, and make it retroactive while they're at it.

17 posted on 03/30/2007 1:52:23 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: conserv8ive1
If we are going to get sued it may as well be for something good like a good old-fashioned a$$beating. I wonder how they'll like that!

No kidding, that's like buying the stake dinner and only eating the baked potato.

18 posted on 03/30/2007 1:53:02 PM PDT by txroadkill
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To: Peach
And....

Muslims offer to help 'John Does' sued by imams[U.S. Airways Passengers]

Hope they meant it.

19 posted on 03/30/2007 1:53:33 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: rawhide
If they aren't sure who the "John Doe's" are, I'll volunteer. I'd be glad to take credit.
20 posted on 03/30/2007 1:56:10 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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