In Dubrovnik, Politician Interrupts Orchestra Concert and Assaults Manager (Croatia)

Playbill Arts ^ | May 21, 2007

[joan]

ping

[vladimir998]

A Croat defended a Serb from an attack by another Croat. I wonder what would have happened if everything was the other way around.

Anyone know of a similar incident in Belgrade?

[F-117A]

Has anyone hear from Diocletian lately?

[joan]

His latest posts show about 5 on the 18th - so 3 days ago.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/user-posts?id=160172

[DTA]

>>>>>Anyone know of a similar incident in Belgrade?<<<<<<

Yeah, that would be the news, not how Croatian Nazis behave.

HSP is not nationalist but NAZI party.

In Serbia, Croats can be anything, even Ministers in Government. In Croatia, it is not safe for Serbs, even for Serbs with German passport.

There will be no civilized behavior there until Dubrovnik fall under Italian rule.

[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“There will be no civilized behavior there until Dubrovnik fall under Italian rule.”

Do the Italians even want it?

[Neophyte]

Do the Italians even want it?

Yeah. Italians of Yugoslav extraction. Or former Yugoslavs with Italian passports.

[getoffmylawn]

A Croat defended a Serb from an attack by another Croat. I wonder what would have happened if everything was the other way around.

I, a Serb, once defended a Croatian friend from another Serb. It was the only time I've witnessed a Serb being a complete jack ass towards a Croat in Chicago. I've seen the reverse far too often my whole life.

It was here in Chicago at a huge Serbian picnic in Grant Park. There was a maniac Serb from New York City at the picnic that had a tattoo of Arkan on his forearm. Someone told him that my buddy was Croatian and he came up to our little group and very menacingly told my friend he wasn't welcome at the picnic. I told him he should take his ass back to New York because Serbs and Croats get along fine in our old neighborhood (the South East Side of Chicago). He explained how he was the only Serb in a neighborhood full of Croats in New York and was regularly harassed by Croats. He eventually backed down and moved along quietly.

Sometimes being a big scary looking south side Serb has its benefits :-)

[montyspython]

All ‘Sout’ siders are scary, big “Bhurle” bastards... :-D

[getoffmylawn]

Not all. Some of the guys ain’t that scary lookin’ :-)

[Diocletian]

HSP is not a Nazi party. The Nazi party was a German phenomenon. HSP is 60 years older than the German Nazi Party.

[Diocletian]

Considering that Dubrovnik was never under Italian rule nor are there many Italians in Dubrovnik, it’d do you some good to ignore the idiotic ramblings of some Serbs here on FR.

[DTA]

>>>>>>>HSP is not a Nazi party. The Nazi party was a German phenomenon. HSP is 60 years older than the German Nazi Party.<<<<<

HSP was a party established by Starcevic and Kvaternik and headed by Ante Pavelic from 1917.

Sort of saying that NSDAP headed by Hitler was not a Nazi party.

[Diocletian]

The Nazi Party was the National Socialist German Workers' Party. I fail to understand how a Croatian political party could be a party for Germany and its workers, and for German nationalism. Secondly, the HSP split into several different groups by the time of Starcevic's death, including the SSP, HSP, and the HCSP (Croatian Pure Party of Rights). The last one was created by the Josip Frank, a Jew. This party was known as the "Frankovci" and was led by Frank until his death in 1911. After that it was led by Alexander Horvat, not Ante Pavelic.

Today's HSP takes its roots not from the Frankovci of the HCSP (an HCSP party already exists today in Croatia, but is practically non-existent), but from the original party formed by Kvaternik and Starcevic.

Hopefully this ends your confusion and you won't engage in further lies.

[flaglady47]

“Has anyone hear from Diocletian lately?”

LOL! Not unless you have a time capsule to the past.

[F-117A]

HSP is not a Nazi party. The Nazi party was a German phenomenon. HSP is 60 years older than the German Nazi Party.

So, that's where Hitler got the idea!

[Diocletian]

Again, incorrect.

[montyspython]

Humorless goof.

[DTA]

>>>>> Secondly, the HSP split into several different groups by the time of Starcevic's death, including the SSP, HSP, and the HCSP (Croatian Pure Party of Rights). The last one was created by the Josip Frank, a Jew. This party was known as the "Frankovci" and was led by Frank until his death in 1911. After that it was led by Alexander Horvat, not Ante Pavelic. <<<<<<<<<

Croatian sources say otherwise"

Ante Pavelic was head of HSP after 1917, when Starcevic died.

Also in English

The facts speak for themselves. The lies will stop only if you stop spreading them here. No one in the right mind could imagine Goebbels Sqaure in German cities today or NSDAP in German Bundestag.

However, HSP in Croatian parliament and Ante Starcevic Square in Croatian cities are the reality of present day Croatia.