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Security Is Focus of Revised Effort on Immigration
The New York Times ^ | June 14, 2007 | ROBERT PEAR

Posted on 06/13/2007 10:45:07 PM PDT by Baladas

WASHINGTON, June 13 — The White House and senators from both parties mapped out possible changes in a comprehensive immigration bill on Wednesday, so they could better portray it as a way to bolster national security rather than to grant amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants.

Senator Mel Martinez, Republican of Florida, a member of the small bipartisan group that wrote the bill, said Wednesday that its sponsors hoped to attract more support by passing an emergency supplemental appropriation of $3 billion to $5 billion to pay for the enforcement measures.

“President Bush seems receptive to the idea,” Mr. Martinez said. Tony Snow, the White House press secretary, expressed interest in a Republican proposal to take all fees and fines collected under the bill and use the money for enforcement.

Even Democratic architects of the bill, like Senators Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts and Ken Salazar of Colorado, are portraying the bill as a way to restore the rule of law.

“It’s a matter of our national security,” Mr. Kennedy said Wednesday. “We have broken borders and a broken immigration system.”

Senator Arlen Specter, Republican of Pennsylvania, said the extra money could “persuade the American people and reluctant senators” to support the bill.

The 1986 immigration law looms over the current debate. Lawmakers of both parties say that law failed because Congress granted amnesty to three million illegal immigrants, but no president has vigorously enforced its prohibition on hiring illegal immigrants.

The 1986 law “resulted in a tidal wave of illegal immigration,” said Senator Jim Webb, Democrat of Virginia.

Senator Jon Kyl of Arizona, the chief Republican architect of the measure, said he and Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, had drafted an amendment that would “significantly tighten up enforcement.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; georgebush; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; immigrationplan; noamnestyforillegals; vampirebill
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So now their talking points are to spend more money implementing amnesty and that's supposed to make everybody fall in love with it. I wish they'd stop trying to distract Americans as if they talking to a two-year-old.

Pig, lipstick, pig.

1 posted on 06/13/2007 10:45:08 PM PDT by Baladas
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To: Baladas

More BS, damn, just damn.


3 posted on 06/13/2007 10:48:07 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, DUNCAN or THOMPSON 08, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
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To: Baladas

Ha,ha, the bullshitters try another ploy and I laugh !!!


4 posted on 06/13/2007 10:50:10 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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They're trying to buy support for amnesty with pork. But putting lipstick on the amnesty pig won't change the fact its still an amnesty pig.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

5 posted on 06/13/2007 10:51:26 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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They want $3-5 billion for border security. Riiiiggghhhtttt. Those little 'porkie' pigs will get their hands on that allocation and reroute it as they always do ... say for eco-bike paths on the border or subsidizing peanut farmers in timbucktoo.

PS...The GOP called me today for a donation... they got an earful.

6 posted on 06/13/2007 10:53:36 PM PDT by BigFinn
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Senator Arlen Specter, Republican of Pennsylvania, said the extra money could “persuade the American people and reluctant senators” to support the bill.

Extra money? Specter has "EXTRA MONEY"? no, he has MY MONEY!

7 posted on 06/13/2007 10:54:37 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe ("I'll see you at the bill signing" - Pres Bush)
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The White House and senators from both parties mapped out possible changes in a comprehensive immigration bill on Wednesday, so they could better portray it as a way to bolster national security rather than to grant amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants.

In other words, what cosmetic tinkering do they need to do so that they can achieve their real objective, the continued free flow of cheap labor across the border. They must think that we were just born yesterday.
8 posted on 06/13/2007 10:56:11 PM PDT by Virginia Gentleman
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“It’s a matter of our national security,” Mr. Kennedy said Wednesday. “We have broken borders and a broken immigration system.”

LOL!

Now you notice-after the bill was knocked down!

9 posted on 06/13/2007 10:57:52 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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They really think we are stupid.

They think that they can throw a few bones our way and we will just roll over?

Do they think we are politicans?

10 posted on 06/13/2007 10:59:39 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: Baladas

This is like Bill Clinton coming up with a strategy for selling the American public on his ideas concerning marital fidelity.


11 posted on 06/13/2007 11:02:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("You will have your bipartisanship." - Fred Thompson, May 4, 2007)
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The Grand Bargain is actually The Grand Hoodwinking

and they are still trying to push it through.

Lindsay Graham wants $4.4 billion -- loan -- to fix the problems.

Senate Republicans Work $4.4 Billion Border Security Amendment

Trent Lott says basically that promising security and many of the other add-on amendments are gimmicks and will be removed when the joint chambers meet to finalize the bill.

Bush lobbies Senate on immigration (Lott's Outrageous Comment)
12 posted on 06/13/2007 11:17:57 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Obie Wan

Yeah. It’s still a pig without enough lipstick.


13 posted on 06/13/2007 11:21:41 PM PDT by hdstmf
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ping


14 posted on 06/13/2007 11:47:18 PM PDT by gubamyster
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These guys must be f^*&ing dense. Every day I go to work and after a long day I get home and read about yet another attempt to revive this travesty of a bill. What is it about “NO” that they don’t understand? We want the borders secured and employers penalized. Those two things together will take care of 90% of the illegal immigration problem. Why they want to wrap other things (i.e. amnesty-like solutions) into the same bill indicate to me that amnesty is their one goal, and all the talk about borders and employers is simply lip service. I feel like I’m banging my head against the wall with these Senators, and right now I just feel like cracking their skulls for once. Every US Senator who pushes this particular bill needs to meet a dastardly fate in the next election. And, recalls are in order for those not up in 2008.


15 posted on 06/14/2007 12:15:01 AM PDT by Azzurri
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To: Baladas

They have no clue!


16 posted on 06/14/2007 12:15:36 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: TomGuy

BS Bull Sh....

MS More Shi

PHD Piled highest and deepest!


17 posted on 06/14/2007 12:17:43 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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“Every US Senator who pushes this particular bill needs to meet a dastardly fate in the next election. And, recalls are in order for those not up in 2008.”

Amen, brother!!


18 posted on 06/14/2007 12:19:18 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Baladas
Tony Snow, the White House press secretary, expressed interest in a Republican proposal to take all fees and fines collected under the bill and use the money for enforcement.

You mean the money collected under the laws that HAVEN'T AND WON'T BE ENFORCED?

Yeah, I believe that one's gonna fly.

\sarc

19 posted on 06/14/2007 12:23:46 AM PDT by Prince Charles
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Just say NO to Amnesty!! Keep calling!! It’s NOT OVER!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


20 posted on 06/14/2007 12:31:31 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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