Anti-Immigration Homeless Advocate Attacked While Denouncing Violence Against African-Americans

Fox News ^ | August 17, 2007

[3AngelaD]

SEAN HANNITY: Homeless advocate Ted Hayes was assaulted Tuesday for spreading his message that illegal immigrants are damaging this country and specifically attacking African-Americans.

An immigration group started false rumors about Hayes being connected to the Ku Klux Klan, which resulted in a black militant assaulting Hayes and spitting at him during a press conference....

Ted, we haven't always agreed. But I want to bring specifically into this you're against illegal immigration and you've taken a stand. Somebody just attacked you for your views.

TED HAYES, IMMIGRATION OPPONENT: Actually, yes sir. Actually, the guy just spit in my face. That's the first time something like that really ever happened.

HANNITY: Is that on tape?...

We were having a news conference about the murders in Newark, New Jersey, and the failure of the elected officials to obey their oath of office to protect us and that we're having the same kinds of problems here in Los Angeles.

And we're calling on Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and particularly L.A. City Council Bernard Parks to help us...

HANNITY: Let's go to the heart of the message that you're bringing here. And that is that illegal immigrants are damaging the country and specifically attacking African-Americans...

HAYES: Yes, sir. It's getting out of hand, and it's getting to the point where they're callous about doing it, to the point where they don't mind threatening us. They threatened my life, you know, and said, “We’re going to cut your throat.” ...

They don't care. And that's a lie, Sean, in America. That because the black leadership, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, these folks are telling them that their illegal immigration movement is an extension of the civil rights movement. There is no comparison between the two whatsoever...

[AuntB]

Forgive me but here is a history lesson. Many, many, many wonderful black women are/were responsible for raising many, many children of white middle class people in the south. There is a very special and loving relationship that existed with whites in blacks in this manner. I know of them. I know of grown men that were brought to thier knees in tears over the passing of the black women that helped raise them. It wasn’t servitude it was a job but it was much much more. These were deep inter-family relationships that only worked through mutual trust and respect. They were loving relationships part friend part family. Probably not closer than mother but closer than aunts. Part of the fabric of the intimacy of the family.

Nice history lesson. Thanks.

[Travis McGee]

[DumpsterDiver]

As a Los Angeles homeowner, I would say so many contractors and sub contractors of just about any job one would hire a company for, will be unwittingly hiring illegals. Myself included. You absolutely can not avoid it it is so very, very blantant and in every areana and practically every business here.

I make stickers that I attach to any bid from a contractor. If he won't sign it, then I don't hire him. The stickers look something like this:

Every worker on the property is covered by my Workman's Comp [company name and policy number] and is covered under my Liability Insurance policy [company name and policy number].

... create a network of small and large businesses who can prove and do NOT employee illegal labor, sub contractors or employees. PERIOD.

I'd hire them.

[fishhound]

You are welcome.
I went out to work in my garden after I wrote that post. I realized that there is an email program called Eudora named after the American woman writer and photographer Eudora Welty.

Her wonderful stories tell of the richness of southern life regardless of peoples economic standing.

She only passed away in 2001 but when I went to college no one ever mentioned her in the classes that I took. I learned about her afterward from friends from Mississippi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eudora_Welty

[fishhound]

Here they are taking over all non-licensed skilled work.

Flooring, roofing but not plumbing and electrical.

The guys with trade licenses feel a little more secure. But I think some kind of amnesty would kill that off as well.

[VOA]

Late-arrivers to this thread should check out links at post 26 above.

[Riverman94610]

Its the opposite situation out here.Its way more common for illegal Latinos to be robbed and murdered by black thugs.
The kids on the street have a name for it-amigo checking.

[Riverman94610]

Regarding these “devoted”black nannies who were like family members,I have but one question:
While they were taking care of these wonderful caring white people’s kids,WHO was taking care of THEIR kids?

[fishhound]

Don’t know.

[Riverman94610]

Well,perhaps “the village”,a term that gets mocked a lot on these boards because it is associated with Hypocritical Hillary.
But the concept did work long ago in the black community.Everyone had each other’s back and kept tight rein on all the children.If Miss Addie had some extra food,little Melvina and Robert would be welcome to stay for dinner,no questions asked.
Now its all about,”Man,you can’t tell me s-—.You ain’t my daddy”
I prefer the village.

[fishhound]

I agree. I am from a huge extended family.
People looked out for each other and thier kids. Now people don’t want to hear anything even if it helps them. Where I live now, new people don’t want to know anyone. Not much sense of community at all. You don’t even hear the kids like you used to....there used to be sounds of kids just goofing off...you never hear it any more.
A friend reminded me that kids used to have calls...kind of like bird calls to find each other when they came outside. I remembered that. I haven’t heard that in ages.

I guess cable TV, video games or whatever keeps them in doors must be that good.../sarcasm.

Your statement about crime makes me think we approach mad-max-land.

[Riverman94610]

You evoke some wonderful memories of my own childhood where there was an innocence and sense of wonder about life.I truly believe I lean way more conservative than liberal because of that upbringing.
Whenever I listen to the song,Disney Girls,I get very emotional because what they sing about is exactly the life I would love to have.
Yet its 2007 and Paris Hilton,Snoop Dogg and Madonna are the cultural heroes.
One thing that saddens me the most about the youngsters today is how they seem to be so anxious to imitate adults.You want to be like US?
Y’all just don’t KNOW.Oh,what I would give to be nine years old again and with my whole life a bright star.

[GOP Poet]

You are right I have not been there for years. But even if I had it would have not been in the company of the nanny employers, back then anyway. I spent time in Princeton, but babies and who was driving the carriages was not on my mind back then, so I definately would not have noticed. :-)

It seems it used to be considered a luxury, at least to my recollection, before it became the norm with extremely low cost labor for not only nannies but wet nurses etc.

Thank you for the information. I was not in the least aware of this. For some reason I have not seen this on the west coast. I wonder why. Maybe because the Caribbean is so far away. Probably got a larger influx in the east? Thanks again. It must be Latinos on the west coast and Caribbeans on the east.

[GOP Poet]

Thanks for sharing this intimate point of history. That is a tender history and a deeply complicated one as well. I remember this so strongly when I was young watching movies in which this was portrayed. Very moving. Was this also a recent phenomenon right before Latinos came with such number to the states? Sad then especially that that tradition has shifted.

That is if it has shifted back east and in the south especially. I wonder--as I have not spent significant time on the east coast but have on the west--if Latinos mind the children there as they do with such great number on the west coast? Especially I see it in S. California as I live here. This southern California Latino nanny phenomenon is the reality I was speaking of. I wonder if black women were nannies here as well once. I could not recall that they were, but as you and another have shared on the east coast they have and have had a huge impact on the raising of children in deep and intimate ways.

[GOP Poet]

Me too!! I would also recommend them to all my friends everywhere. :-)

Excellent, excellent action with the sticker. I read once this is exactly what one should do before signing any contract. What a very smart and conscienscious person you are! I will start doing this from now on. Have you had many that can't or won't sign it? Thanks for the tip!

[dennisw]

Fair enough on illegals. I would only add that plenty of our legal immigrants shouldn’t even be here. They are here only due to chain immigration and family reunification (extended family not nuclear) immigration policies. 33% or more of legal immigrants are as useless& a burden on society as legal immigrants

MEXICO SENDS US THE MOST LEGAL IMMIGRANTS!
An outage when one considers how many illegal Mexicans we are plagued with

[dennisw]

Late-arrivers to this thread should check out links at post 26 above.

IMO Mexicans are very conscious of racial pecking orders. The mixed bloods who come here know that they are lorded over by the Euro-Spanish elites of Mexico. When they come here they operate as if white Americans are above them and black Americans are below them. For the most part they don't like blacks, at the extreme they will drive them out of black neighborhoods and turn them into Mexican/Hispanic ones

In general all varieties of Hispanics are more racist about blacks than are white Americans

[panthermom]

I live in the south, every person I know who had a nanny, had a black nanny who they loved to death. These nannies were invited to, graduations, weddings, births and all family functions even after the children were grown.

[panthermom]

My husband works in the construction business and we were talking about the illegals last night. He said 10 years ago, blacks did all of the masonary work on the houses for just about every builder he dealt with, now they’re all spanish. I know for a fact the spanish have took jobs away from not only black Americans but white Americans as well, they drove two of our good friends out of businesses they had for many years.

[GOP Poet]

I live in the south, every person I know who had a nanny, had a black nanny who they loved to death. These nannies were invited to, graduations, weddings, births and all family functions even after the children were grown.

Is this still true? Are the black women still nannies? I loved your wording, "loved to death." It says so much about the bond. Is illegal immigration effecting this population as well?