Posted on 12/01/2007 1:49:32 PM PST by Talking_Mouse
Worse is their "well, we still think some of it might be true" approach to the evaluation of these events. So what? If every word were true as printed TNR would still be without an excuse for having published it without checking it. Unbelievable.
So are you saying then that TNR invented the numerous corroborations for the Kuwait mess hall story? I recognize TNR is trying to cover their asses, and yes, Beauchamp lied about the time and place of “The Crypt Keeper” saga as he and his friends called her. But all of his friends involved corroborated it, and were even the ones who tipped it off that it was in Kuwait, not Iraq. But that is just the point of it. That was before any of them ever set foot in Iraq. People like Beauchamp seek out their own kind, and they all sound like they enjoy a good laugh at the misfortune of others. There are assholes everywhere, especially fresh out of high school, so don’t try to pretend like none of them ever enlist. But what TNR tried to do was use this knuckledhead as propaganda for a political statement about what war supposedly does to our innocent, fresh-faced kids. But the truth came out that he was already a jerk, and always has been.
I have not seen corroborations. What I have seen are the same people who first told the now-discredited stories claiming that unnamed others have corroborated their new versions of those stories. I believe these new claims by TNR even less than I believed the original stories which was not at all.
Well I don’t quite understand. Before, you said Beauchamp was a liar. Fine, I think we all agree on that. But are you also calling the editor of TNR a liar as well? Because it was not Beauchamp who wrote of the seperate corroborations. I’m not quite sure what part you are afraid of being true. TNR’s attempt to use Beauchamp as an example of what the Iraq war is doing to our troops backfired on them. That can’t be undone, no matter what they say now. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that everything Beauchamp said was invented out of wholecloth either. Instead, all it means is that war didn’t make Beauchamp an asshole, he was just born that way.
Awaiting the What’s your problem with Jonah and Beinart
My what a mealy-mouthed, weasel-worded statement of recognition that their reporter was a liar. But I guess when you’re dealing with liberals this is about as close as you can get to acceptance of responsibility. The bottom line for me is how unsurprising it is that a leftist rag would err on the side of backstabbing our troops. It’s just par for the course.
“The nature of the evidence is irrelevant; it’s the seriousness of the charge that matters.”
- Dan Rather
The old fake but accurate cop out.
The guy lied, made up tons of shit and TNR printed it. The people who need "journalistic training" are the editors who didn't attempt to verify or corroborate any of what Beauchamp wrote.
Not to mention that his WIFE was the supposed after-the-fact factchecker. What a joke!
The Dick Durbin defense (think the nazi, gulag diatribe)
Well.. actually, no. It depends. If the mainstream media are the gatekeepers of what is news or issues that's all you need. You can even give your real name.
Without the Internet and with the "Fairness Doctrine" this NR lie would have prevailed just as did Walter "North Vietnam Communists' most trusted man in America" Cronkite's lie that the Tet offensive proved that the U.S. could not win the war in Viet Nam.
Yes.
I’m not quite sure what part you are afraid of being true.
None.
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