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Posted on 03/24/2008 3:43:32 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man

What's the take around here about the story of McCain being the pilot who started the Forrestal explosions/fire by wet-starting his jet on deck, and touching off the rocket of the A-4 behind him?

Did he really get an immediate transfer off the ship even before it was under control? (Like they were afraid the surviving crew was going to basically kill him for this?)

Is this something that is an urban legend or did it really occur and he has some or all of the blame for this happening?


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KEYWORDS: bravosierra; forrestal; lcdrmccain; mccain; pilot; ussforrestal; wetstart
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1 posted on 03/24/2008 3:43:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: Secret Agent Man

Ace McCain!!!!!!!!!!1


2 posted on 03/24/2008 3:45:06 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Secret Agent Man

Entirely inaccurate.


3 posted on 03/24/2008 3:45:20 PM PDT by Shryke
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To: Secret Agent Man

I have watched this on the History Channel and they interview McCain as being on board at the time and not directly involved with any planes at the time of the incident if I remember correctly.


4 posted on 03/24/2008 3:46:39 PM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Secret Agent Man

http://www.blah3.com/article.php?story=20070122183950855


5 posted on 03/24/2008 3:46:40 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Shryke

In what respects is the story inaccurate?


6 posted on 03/24/2008 3:48:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

http://judicial-inc.biz/82jjohn_mccain_and_the_uss_forresta.htm

This site tends to say he had some responsibility


7 posted on 03/24/2008 3:48:52 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Complete nonsense. The Zuni rocket that hit McCain’s A-4 was from an F-4 parked across the deck, there’s no controversy or dispute over it.

In no way, shape, or form did he cause the fire (Made one of many remarkable escapes from death in his life, though.)


8 posted on 03/24/2008 3:50:22 PM PDT by Strategerist
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McCain nearly got killed in that tragedy. He had nothing to do with starting it. I don’t like the guy (see my tagline) but we do need to be fair to him.


9 posted on 03/24/2008 3:50:28 PM PDT by PeterFinn (I am not voting for McCain. No way, no how.)
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To: Shryke
Entirely inaccurate.

There is a video, and I've seen it: McCain was in his own plane's cockpit and was really the first victim of a "friendly-fire" missile fired from across the deck.

I've been getting this inaccuracy at rural forums for a week.

11 posted on 03/24/2008 3:51:11 PM PDT by Does so (...against all enemies, DOMESTIC and foreign...)
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Bullshit - pure and simple. McCain was in a fueled, armed A4 that was hit by exploding ordnance. As his jet burned from under him he walked along the refueling probe to get clear of the flames. McCain's detractors blame him for the loss of the plane. His contributions was being in it when it got hit.

McCain has enough failings without having to make any up. But don't let the scumbag pussies besmirch his service the way they did the President's.

12 posted on 03/24/2008 3:51:53 PM PDT by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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I’m still waiting for all of the details to be gathered. I understand that Dan Rather is putting together a program which will air in late October.


13 posted on 03/24/2008 3:51:56 PM PDT by incredulous joe
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To: PeterPrinciple
From the referenced site...

The Zionists cooked the Forrestal story for a reason. They said McCain was on the catapult, but video shows he wasn't.

Whether Obama, Clinton, or McCain get elected doesn't matter. They will all do what the Zionists tell them to do. The Americans will need a fiscal collapse to motivate them, and then they will seek a electoral impeachment/recall.

So, yeah, I'd kinda have to take that with a huge deerlick of salt.

14 posted on 03/24/2008 3:52:03 PM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: PeterFinn

I agree. That’s why I’m asking “what is the deal?” with this story. I figured I’d get a response here that would help me get to the truth about it.


15 posted on 03/24/2008 3:52:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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Secret Agent Man, it is completely inaccurate. I would suggest reading “Sailors to the End: The Deadly Fire on the USS Forrestal and the Heroes Who Fought It”.

John McCain was my former Commanding Officer for a few months...there are plenty of reasons I hate the concept of voting for him, but the Forrestal Fire is not one of them.


16 posted on 03/24/2008 3:52:43 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

A simple google would have provided you video and other ample evidence, including the posts in this thread.


17 posted on 03/24/2008 3:52:50 PM PDT by Shryke
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To: PeterPrinciple
This site tends to say he had some responsibility

Ooooh! It's on the internet, so it must be true.

You'll note 1) it provides no sources, and 2) at the bottom it goes on a rant about a Jewish Zionist conspiracy covering up McCain's role in the accident.

This dog won't hunt, folks. Nothing to see here.

18 posted on 03/24/2008 3:53:05 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Does so

Well, if his plane was the one STRUCK by the missile, I don’t know how anyone can pass this off as being HIS fault.

As others have stated, it’s not like this needs to be true to be against McCain. I had just started to see a lot of this coming out the last few weeks and thought I needed to get the real scoop on it.


19 posted on 03/24/2008 3:54:55 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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20 posted on 03/24/2008 3:55:47 PM PDT by Bobalu (What do I know, I'm a Typical White Guy)
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