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Old Cellulose [and DNA] Found in NM Salt Crystals
www.physorg.com ^ | 04/15/2008 | By MATT MYGATT

Posted on 04/15/2008 5:52:45 AM PDT by Red Badger

This photo provided by Jack Griffith, a professor of microbiology and immunology at the University of North Carolina School of Medicine, shows Waste Isolation Pilot Plant staff member Sam Dominguez using a core drill to extract salt crystal samples from a salt wall at the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant near Carlsbad, N.M. in December 2006. Griffith and his team found cellulose dating back 253 million years _ along with some possible ancient DNA _ in salt crystals from the underground nuclear waste dump. The crystals were taken from newly mined areas 2,000 feet below WIPP's desert surface last fall and a couple of years ago, Griffith said Wednesday, April 9, 2008. Griffith said he thinks looking for cellulose in salt deposits is a good way to go searching for life on other planets. (AP pPhoto/Courtesy of Jack Griffith)

Cellulose dating back 253 million years - along with some possible ancient DNA - has been found in salt crystals from an underground nuclear waste dump in southern New Mexico.

"We did see some ancient DNA in the salt, but not a lot, and we have to continue experiments to try to verify that it is ancient DNA," said Jack D. Griffith, a professor of microbiology and immunology at the University of North Carolina School of Medicine.

<A HREF="http://a.tribalfusion.com/h.click/aAmMJlTFbZcWPjYQar3QGZbtQtbvYdjsT6rM2VJ40UrZcV6qm2PM6QPbC2HrO0tQZbmHZao5mQU5cbfTGFkUsM6S6FMWd3STrM05bZasUEUvVEr8STYLQc7CPbmpSWjlUVMW4FuondAyYaex2tjZaQGvZc5AQEpWXHwT1iOR/http://www.classmates.com?s=741741371982889" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC=http://cdn5.tribalfusion.com/media/1182946/Classmates_300_1.jpg WIDTH=300 HEIGHT=250 BORDER=0></A> The cellulose - the same microscopic stuff in wood or cotton - was in water locked in tiny cubes of clear and reddish-brown salt crystals at the federal government's Waste Isolation Pilot Plant near Carlsbad.

The crystals were taken from newly mined areas 2,000 feet below WIPP's desert surface last fall and a couple of years ago, Griffith said last week.

"We found one in a wall that was a couple of feet across, almost looking like into a huge frozen block of ice. The others were found in crystal that is smaller and finer and in jumbles with sulfur or clay deposits," he said.

The research by Griffith and four co-authors was published in the April issue of the journal Astrobiology.

Griffith said he thinks looking for cellulose in salt deposits is a good way to go searching for life on other planets because cellulose is tough.

He and his colleagues used a tiny drill - about the width of a cat's whisker - to bore into the water-bearing cubes to retrieve drops water as large as one from a standard eyedropper.

"These inclusions contain saturated salt water that is basically a time capsule that is a quarter-of-a-billion years old," Griffith said.

Evaporation cycles from a Permian sea created a 2,000-foot-thick bed of salt.

The water drops were placed in a centrifuge and the remaining pellets were examined with an electron microscope.

"We were thinking we might see bacteria or bacteria viruses or DNA," Griffith said.

"But there were all these mats of this fibrous stuff," which further tests and research found to be cellulose, he said.

The cellulose looks like a web of tangled angel hair pasta. The fibers are about twice the diameter of a DNA molecule.

The discovery of the cellulose, probably remnants of filamentous algae, is significant and exciting, said Karl Niklas, a professor at Cornell University's Department of Plant Biology.

"The cell walls were preserved, so they (Griffith's team) have native cellulose," Niklas said.

The ancient cellulose was not fossilized - a process in which biological material is replaced by minerals, making a rock.

Cellulose is "a fairly simple structure. And it's probably a fairly simple step for the earliest life forms a couple of billion years ago to start stringing these things together one after another," Griffith said.

"Bacterial colonies could use it to synthesize mats. They could coat themselves with it for protection," he said.

"Not only is it (cellulose) extremely stable, but it's also by far the single most abundant molecule on the planet," Griffith said.

Plants, algae and bacteria generate about 100 gigatons of cellulose a year, he said.

"We're kind of living in a soup of this stuff," Griffith said.

Griffith and his students have talked about going into older salt beds - such as an almost 400 million-year-old deposit under Detroit - to look for cellulose.

"The joke has been that this is the first time students want to be sent to the salt mines," he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: archeology; dna; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; paleontology; salt; saltmine; wipp
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1 posted on 04/15/2008 5:52:45 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: blam

Ping!..........


2 posted on 04/15/2008 5:53:16 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

Hoffa?


3 posted on 04/15/2008 5:54:33 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Huh?)
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To: Red Badger
Not only do bears do predictable things in woods, but woods themselves are predictably made out of paper.
4 posted on 04/15/2008 5:55:44 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: Red Badger
Yes, even before another quarter billion years of evolution had taken place algae were stringing cellulose together that could last 1/4 billion years ~

We might well ask how it was that "life" figured out that it needed cellwalls that could last that long.

We could ask God why life needs cellwalls good for a full quarter billion years.

So, hey, for an algae cell that expects to be around for a few months why does it need a cellwall that lasts a quarter billion years?

5 posted on 04/15/2008 6:00:26 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Don’t forget, it was found in SALT, a very good preservative..................


6 posted on 04/15/2008 6:04:03 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: JasonC

I resent that remark!................

7 posted on 04/15/2008 6:05:02 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: muawiyah
“So, hey, for an algae cell that expects to be around for a few months why does it need a cellwall that lasts a quarter billion years?”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.................
That's his make work project for useless Scientists who get grants to study the obvious or best scam going: find stuff so small, so distant, so long ago, that you can pretty much make up what you want and get published.
As I said, a great scam, brought to us by the people who thought up Man Made Global warming..
Tom Edison, Bell, and such would have a great laugh at what gets passed off as science today.
8 posted on 04/15/2008 6:11:21 AM PDT by shadowgovernment (From the Ashes of a Republican rout will raise a Conservative Party)
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To: Red Badger

Still, there’s a quarter billion years of interior cell structures to hold in place ~


9 posted on 04/15/2008 6:12:11 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Red Badger

This is Yucca mountain, I am better dollars to donuts they are looking for something special in the salt, some useful DNA or some living creature to try and stop them from using it to store the nuke waste there.

Why else would they be looking at microscopic salt particles for billion year old evidence of plant life? Last time I checked there are hundreds of other salt mines they can go and play with, why choose one steeped in so much controversy to research like this?


10 posted on 04/15/2008 6:14:47 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Red Badger
This has Skully and Muldar written all over it! Shouldn't there be an immediate quarantine on this site before the Black Oil gets out into the general population?
11 posted on 04/15/2008 6:15:49 AM PDT by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: 50sDad

Oil from algae is exactly what we need right now!..............


12 posted on 04/15/2008 6:17:05 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Abathar

Good question. But they have to drill test cores anyway, so might as well analyze the stuff they find in them........


13 posted on 04/15/2008 6:18:23 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

Agreed, just kind of suspicious by nature I guess. N.C. to Nevada, they had to jump over literally hundreds of salt mines between the two is all.

Heck maybe the prof. just like an excuse to stay in Vegas with his students while they do their “fieldwork”.


14 posted on 04/15/2008 6:22:44 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Red Badger
Cellulite? Why is everyone so excited about finding cellulite? People spend lots of money trying to get rid of this stuff and these morons are searching for it in mines. Cellulite is everywhere. Cellulite? I've got your cellulite right here!

What's that? Its cellulose? Oh. Never mind....


15 posted on 04/15/2008 6:30:16 AM PDT by Dr._Joseph_Warren
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To: Abathar

This is not Yucca Mountain. Y.M. is in S.W. Nevada, near the Cali border. This salt mine is in S. New Mexico, near Carlsbad. They are quite a distance apart.


16 posted on 04/15/2008 6:31:20 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: Abathar

Between the references to “Carlsbad, NM” and “Permian Sea”, I’m pretty sure this is southeast New Mexico, not Vegas (although northern NM does have a non-gambling “Las Vegas”).


17 posted on 04/15/2008 6:31:49 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: jimtorr

29 seconds...


18 posted on 04/15/2008 6:33:11 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

Darn...beat me to it. Very quick!


19 posted on 04/15/2008 6:33:45 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (The Mainstream Media Controls Our Party. Go, RINOS!)
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To: jimtorr

Yep, when they mentioned nuclear storage site I jumped to conclusions, hence my tagline.


20 posted on 04/15/2008 6:37:10 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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