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HRW finds reports of abductions of Serbs from Kosovo credible.
Human Rights Watch ^ | May 5, 2008 | Humab Rights Watch

Posted on 05/05/2008 4:40:27 PM PDT by dschapin

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To: Diocletian
...or is that reserved only for when HRW accuses the Serbs of doing something bad?

...With this bit of propaganda, they want to have something on the Albanians to use later.

Good grief, Dio, don't be so cynical.

That is to say, it's much easier to take each case one at a time - HRW notwithstanding. :-)

21 posted on 05/05/2008 10:03:21 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: dschapin
Let me put it this way. When the Democrat Bill Clinton was President and he supported the Kosovo Albanians against the Serbs, Human Rights Watch attacked the Serbs. Now that Republican George Bush is President and he supports the Kosovo Albanians against the Serbs, Human Rights Watch attacks the Kosovo Albanians.

Coincidence? I think not.

22 posted on 05/05/2008 10:48:14 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Interesting argument. However, I would expect that Soros is a lot more concerned about the views of the European internationalists that he hangs out with then with whether or not Goerge Bush is a Republican. Soros’s buddies like Javiar Solona are all supporting the independance of Kosovo since it would create a state that either the E.U. or the United States could control. Thus I would expect that Soros’s org’s would still be biased towards supporting the Albanians. However, you do have a good point that their bias is probably more anti-nationalist then anti-serb per se. So, if the albanians actually start to look like they are going to be able to put together a greater Albania that would actually be strong enough to come out from under internationalist control then I would expect Soros’s org’s to switch sides.


23 posted on 05/05/2008 11:22:00 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The Serbs on this forum never supported Milosevic, only the Serbian people. That fact that you got that so comically wrong proves your understanding of the Serbs is ZERO (0).


24 posted on 05/06/2008 4:33:27 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
...Human Rights Watch attacks the Kosovo Albanians.

A blind squirrel found a nut.

25 posted on 05/06/2008 4:34:14 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What is a nationalist?


26 posted on 05/06/2008 6:42:46 AM PDT by SQUID
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To: SQUID

The KLA is a good example of a nationalist force, despite the ridiculous notion paraded on FR that they’re Jihadis. Vojislav Seselj is another example of a nationalist.


27 posted on 05/06/2008 11:05:07 AM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Diocletian

HRW is Soros garbage. Their recent accusations against the Albanians that now live in Kosovo doesn’t change that in the least.


28 posted on 05/06/2008 12:40:33 PM PDT by getoffmylawn (Now it is 1984. Knock knock at your front door. It's the Suede Denim Secret Police...)
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To: Diocletian

They’re a terrorist organization.


29 posted on 05/06/2008 1:35:17 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: montyspython

if they’re a terrorist organization, then so were Arkan’s forces as well as Seselj’s White Eagles.


30 posted on 05/06/2008 2:13:52 PM PDT by Diocletian
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To: dschapin
"seven ethnic Albanians who served in the Kosovo Liberation Army, interviewed separately, gave details about participating in or witnessing the transfer of abducted Serbs and others prisoners from Kosovo into Albania after the war"

I'd like to know what countries/hospitals the organs were flown to (or people claim they were sent to) and what months/years these shipments occurred. They could be occurring for as long as the prisoners were still alive. There were still Kosovo Serbs alive in concentration camps/detention as of spring 2000.

31 posted on 05/06/2008 7:44:51 PM PDT by joan
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The KLA is a good example of a nationalist force...

You're basically right, Dio, but you're also overlooking something. That is, the term nationalism has a different meaning to Americans (or Canadians) than it does to people in Eastern Europe.

You should be aware of this.

32 posted on 05/06/2008 11:17:57 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Diocletian
Five radical Islamists charged with planning attacks
Fort Dix Army base in New Jersey is not Jihadism? Just a bunch of fine European men making a prank.

You're so brain washed. Too many Croatian Nationalist news papers.

33 posted on 05/07/2008 5:56:26 AM PDT by SQUID
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That’s the exception that proves the rule, Squid. Anyone with even a cursory knowledge of the Albanians in Kosovo and the war in 1999 knows that they overwhelmingly rejected the Mujahideen and the Jihad forced upon them by the Saudis and their American allies.


34 posted on 05/07/2008 4:12:22 PM PDT by Diocletian
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic

The point is that the KLA were a nationalist force, not an Islamist force of Mujahideens, seeking to implement the rule of Islam. They fought for Albanian rule.


35 posted on 05/07/2008 4:13:24 PM PDT by Diocletian
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The point is that the KLA were a nationalist force...

Okay. But you're assuming that 'everyone' knows what your implying when say nationalist force - someone like dennisW doesn't, for example. Note: I read your post on another thread.

Look, Dio, let provide a quick (anecdotal) and simple example of what I'm trying to say.

Suppose, you suggest to "Joe" in America the following:

Hey Joe, did you know that the KLA is a nationalist force?

Joe's response most likely be something along the lines of:

"Well, I don't know what the KLA is, but I don't see what's wrong because they are proud of themselves and their country."

On the other hand, if you were to ask "Joe" in Romania the same question a typical response would be as follows:

"Well, I don't know what the KLA is, but my gosh, they're Nationalists - who are they going to kill today?

I realize this is basic, but it provides an explanation of the different perceptions.

36 posted on 05/08/2008 12:24:05 AM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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