Posted on 06/10/2009 3:26:30 PM PDT by Drango
What you mean "we", paleface? are you implying that I was anything other than pure as the driven snow in high school?
“You would like to believe conservatives would do something about it.”
This conservative does.
I support parents who teach their children right from wrong, discipline them, and teach them to not make stupid decisions about their health.
I support accurate consumer information.
Anything else is none of our damn business.
Like AlGore bringing em to tears at the convention about watching his sister die and swearing there, to fight tobacco. It would be sad, if he didnt stay in the Tobacco business for years after,,, that just makes his theater funny.
Struggled?? He is a closet smoker. Addicted. If he were a Republican those photos of smoking would have been banner headlines day after day. Yeah. Smoking is addictive. It is still a choice for many. I have never smoked. Both my parents were smokers. Always hated it but it is LEGAL. The Government makes waaaay to much in taxes for them to make it illegal.
Well it should be our business....
Civilization cannot survive with twelve-year-olds having babies, fifteen-year-olds shooting one another, seventeen-year-olds dying of AIDS, and eighteen-year-olds graduating with diplomas they cannot read. - Newt Gingrich (1997)
“I agree. I think it should be illegal for minors to purchase tobacco.”
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Uh...it is.
“Ban it and be done with it.”
..and lose all of that tax revenue and all those government jobs?
“I feel dirty that I’m on the same side as Waxman, Kennedy, Dodd, and Boxer”
And there is your answer,, convince all you want, compel none. And it cant be that addicting, my dad smoked 14 years, then quit cold turkey when he accidently burned a hole in my little sisters dress when she was 2.
Can’t do that with heroin. I think the habit and the ceremony of lighting up is more addicting than the substance itself.
And if the left is serious about it, let em start with a law forbidding all smoking in movies! (let em screw their own constituency for once)
And that democrat star chamber you mentioned, any willing to vote to cease *all* support for tobacco farming? Or would they vote to prohibit all export of tobacco? NOooo,, that would cost them votes. It’s just a game to them,,
“I think it should be illegal for minors to purchase tobacco.”
Ah yes, just pass a law, and it will fix everythinhg.
Started smoking when I was 13, and still do enjoy it. Will be 70 in little over a year. Father smoked most of his life, but past away at 92. Grandfather smoked all his life, a chain smoking pharmacist who literally worked every day of his life, and it took 93 years to kill him. All his children smoked. The last two of my aunts died in their 90s.
But for the sake of some who cannot do anything without getting sick, we’ll just deprive everyone else of their pleasure. Why should they enjoy life?
Hank
Why do you want government to control the behaviour of the governed? Where is that in the Constitution, federal or any state?
Durbin is a traitor anyway. He can rot in hell.
There was much the same rhetoric supporting Prohibition and look at consequences.
Dick, your cousin was about 65 years old, you had 55 years to get him to stop........why didn't you and why are you now so concerned?
Stay out my life you jackass......
If the liberals and do-gooders throughout the land were really sincere about their heart-wrenching tales of victimization by BIG BAD TOBACCO they would be working hard to make the product illegal.
Instead they spend their time thinking up new ways to squeeze tax money out of tobacco sales.
This isn’t about concern for the health of the populace.
If it was the federal and state governments would have put money from tobacco taxes and lawsuits into protected accounts to be spent only on tobacco related health issues.
But they have not done that - they have just run amok with it just like every other dollar they manage to extort from taxpayers.
The truth is that taxing tobacco is just another government scam to scare people with a threat of some sort and use that fear to screw them out of more their earnings.
You’re talking about hypocrisy. Statists don’t care about hypocrisy.
There was a John Hopkins University study of those who had died of lung cancer. Of those who had smoked at least a pack a day for 25 years or more the ones who quit died at a higher rate than those who continued to smoke.
Are the politicians condemning a greater number to die than they are saving, sort of like the DDT ban?
So Durbin isn’t banning tobacco?
Addicting or not, it’s a personal decision to start - or quit.
I smoked for 30 years. Three packs a day for the last 10 or so. I quit cold turkey. No sympathy for those that think they have an issue with quitting.
72 hours folks. If you can last that long you got it made.
I believed this for years. And then just a year or two ago there was a thread here on FR from India where a couple of Indian doctors wrote a paper on the same thing. Now you say John Hopkins has seen this too.
Almost makes me want to start again :-)
A few years ago, a friend of mine and his wife decided to quit together. They were in their early 40s and decided to live "better" and went on this huge health kick.
Three years later she was dead of a very aggressive lung cancer.
Irrelevant to the issue at hand. Besides, if you eliminate big-gov't poverty programs none of the things Newt describes would be happening.
Of course...society has zero duty to protect it’s children. None. Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em.
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