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For many senators, tobacco bill is personal
AP ^ | 6/10/09 | JIM ABRAMS

Posted on 06/10/2009 3:26:30 PM PDT by Drango

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To: Hank Kerchief

That’s four and counting. What’s the limit?


41 posted on 06/10/2009 5:41:27 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The University of Notre Dame's motto: "Kill our unborn children? YES WE CAN!")
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To: Drango

So parents are chopped liver then?


42 posted on 06/10/2009 5:50:33 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Whatever you say.


43 posted on 06/10/2009 5:51:45 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: stylin19a

“3,500 x 365 = 12.7 million..a year..I call BullSh%t !”

I call it right along with you. This is a statistic like the government used to tell us how many people were becoming homeless every day back in the late 1980s. Using their figure, I think it was said that by 1992 or 1993 everyone in the country would be homeless.

Government numbers are pure fiction used to stimulate emotions to get people to go down the wrong path. After all, emotions are easier than logic.


44 posted on 06/10/2009 5:54:57 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (Let the purging of the RINOs begin in 2010. - MissouriConservative)
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To: VeniVidiVici

My mother had 5 siblings plus her parents, for a total of 7. All except her smoked, drank and raised hell in general. She lead a very healthy Christian life. They all died between 85 and 89.

Her nephew, my cousin, quit at age sixty. He did of lung cancer at age sixty-one. His mother, my aunt and my mother’s older sister, quit when she was 88. She died of lung cancer at 89.

Of course these are just antidotal but they were in my small circle of relatives. I have smoked for 56 years and feel great and am in great shape as far as I know. All medical test and x-rays come out great.


45 posted on 06/10/2009 6:07:44 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Iron Munro

As always with government, it is about money and control, nothing more.


46 posted on 06/10/2009 6:24:46 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: MissouriConservative; stylin19a
“3,500 x 365 = 12.7 million..a year..I call BullSh%t !”

OK...There are about 32 million kids 10-18. What is your number or estimate for those who tried tobacco for the first time? 12 million? 10 million? 1 million? Zero?

47 posted on 06/10/2009 6:36:15 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango; nufsed
Where are all these numbers coming from and I didn't know that kids register the first time they smoke.

You are being played by socialists and can't even see it.

48 posted on 06/10/2009 6:46:15 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You are being played by the addicts and can’t even see it.


49 posted on 06/10/2009 6:48:37 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Huh???????????


50 posted on 06/10/2009 6:51:23 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, school and passport records.)
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To: Drango

Those “addicts” aren’t preaching big government intervention into private lives. You are.


51 posted on 06/10/2009 6:53:15 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: nufsed

I included you because I was responding to a post addressed to you. :-) That is considered proper FR etiquette.


52 posted on 06/10/2009 6:55:27 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Drango
Smoking sucks. I'm sorry I spent years of my life doing it, and I'm glad I'm done with it.

That being said, I don't believe in the failed drug war, and I don't believe in statism.

If you want to quit for good, read Allen Carr's Easy Way To Stop Smoking. If you don't, don't.
53 posted on 06/10/2009 6:58:48 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Drango

This is about Dick (Dirtbag) Durbin, my senator? More babies have died under his watch than those that died from smoking!

He doesn’t care about life. He won’t let many to live long enough to determine whether they would wish to smoke or not.

Sorry anything he says is bogus. Just a hypocrite.

Blessings, Greg


54 posted on 06/10/2009 7:03:28 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: Drango

Not only that, but obesity has really become a problem in the U.S. — particularly among children — responsible for myriad health issues, from diabetes to heart disease. Congress really should ban all fatty foods.

And let’s not forget all the health and social problems caused by alcohol. Hopefully Congress will address that soon as well.

I really must express how grateful I am that our people in government, and even here on this forum, are willing to take time out of their busy schedules to legislate every aspect my life so that I won’t ever make any bad decisions.

You guys are simply the best!!!


55 posted on 06/10/2009 7:24:22 PM PDT by kevao
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To: Drango

We should have dropped Tobacco on Japan instead on Nukes. Many other products that were considered to be much less dangerous were banned. If this Legal product that cannot be used anywhere meets that Dangerous and Addictive criteria, ban it. Just quit eating at the edges and giving Lawyers lots of easy Pay Days.


56 posted on 06/10/2009 7:29:13 PM PDT by dbrew2u
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To: Drango

We should have dropped Tobacco on Japan instead of Nukes. Many other products that were considered to be much less dangerous were banned. If this Legal product that cannot be used anywhere meets that Dangerous and Addictive criteria, ban it. Just quit eating at the edges and giving Lawyers lots of easy Pay Days.


57 posted on 06/10/2009 7:30:30 PM PDT by dbrew2u
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We should have dropped Tobacco on Japan instead on Nukes.

Wouldn't have worked as they smoke more and have a lower cancer rate.

58 posted on 06/10/2009 7:42:29 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Drango
huh ? make up any number you want, like they did.

and before you go off, I've tried tracking down the research everyone quotes. I've seen that figure reported in 1989.
I've seen 4000, I've seen 6000 with 3000 of those becoming addicted. Still haven't found the concrete research.

If you can find it, I'd be more than willing to read it. Until then, pick a number.

59 posted on 06/10/2009 8:00:56 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama's Plan B - Payday Loans)
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To: Drango

“OK...There are about 32 million kids 10-18. What is your number or estimate for those who tried tobacco for the first time? 12 million? 10 million? 1 million? Zero?”

For one, who cares? For another, considering the “tobacco is evil” mantra that has run for the last 10 plus years, I’m seriously doubting that 3,500 kids a day are trying smoking. I’m one who demands proof of things. I want to see the studies where this statistic was discovered.

If you want to trust the government or an entity that has a stake in this debate, then you might as well sign up for the democratic party. They swallow everything they are told by our beloved leaders hook, line, and sinker.

Now, if by some miracle of miracles, this number is even close to true, then the government needs to stop this “regulate” it and just simply ban it. After all, they know better than we do right?


60 posted on 06/10/2009 8:05:41 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (Let the purging of the RINOs begin in 2010. - MissouriConservative)
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